View Full Version : Unique vs Bullseye 44 mag.
07-19-2012, 09:25 PM
This should be an easy question for JLA to answer, So is a 44 magnum considered a high pressure or low pressure ??
High.. John im moving this to Ammo and reloading. Scroll down the sub forums about midway and youll see it there.
It is indeed a high pressure loading when loaded with stiff charges of 2400 or W296 as intended by Elmer Kieth. But it is equally suited to low pressure loadings with .45 colt level charges of Unique, bullseye, W231, etc..
BTW, glad you finally joined the club.
07-19-2012, 09:39 PM
So i need to load up some 240 gr nosler JHP with 2400 and try them out. Definitely going to take some time to get use to using a forum , navigating through this is very different
07-19-2012, 09:39 PM
as above , depends on how you load it
yeah. go about 19 gr to start and work your way up. Elmer Kieths famous 600 yd mule deer load was 21 gr under a 240 gr Hardcast Kieth style SWC. And yes, the dude shot a mule deer 3 times from 600 yds with a 6 inch S&W model 29
You might remember my SBH that I had just like Toms? One of my fav loads for it was 9 gr Unique under a 240 gr bullet. its good for about 900 fps from the 7.5" bbl, has the power to kill just about anything on this continent and is quite easy to shoot. I think Tommy would appreciate them.
07-19-2012, 09:57 PM
This is going to be a hunting round for a ruger ninety six with a 18 1/4 inches barrel , powder wise I have 2400, unique,w231,2400, bullseye and blue dot. I really need to invest in a chronograph :s
07-19-2012, 10:21 PM
A hard cast 320 GRS. .429 GC over a charge of Win 296 makes a Black Bear a safe animal. I have finished Bull Elk with these loads as well. The platform is the old 29-2 S&W 4".
07-20-2012, 12:39 PM
Unique and 2400 are my two go-to powders for my Redhawk. For general shooting/target, I've stayed with light to moderate loads of Unique. In a rifle, I'd probably stay with 2400, but you can still get good velocity out of Unique.
07-20-2012, 02:14 PM
Sounds like you might need a reloading manual. I'd say get a Nosler manual since you're using Nosler bullets. Also look in the Rifle section as there is sometimes .44 Magnum listings for rifles too. I'm sure you can find good loads for 2400 and Blue Dot (more suitable for Magnum loads).
07-21-2012, 07:21 PM
I use 10.5 grs of Unique with a 240gr Rainier bullet.
07-23-2012, 06:00 AM
I load 10.5 grains of Unique under a 275gr Kieth.
07-23-2012, 09:08 AM
Elmer Keith's own words. http://www.darkcanyon.net/Reloading_the_44_magnum.htm
Just for the record, I worked 30 years to get the .44 Magnum produced, both gun and load. All credit for its appearance is due C. G. Peterson and Gail Evans of Remington (for bringing out the load) and to Carl Hellstrom of Smith and Wesson for bringing the Remington and S & W people together to produce the proper gun for the load. S & W sent me the first .44 magnum made. Remington forwarded me the first lot of ammo in plain, uncolored boxes. Both the gun manufacturers and ammunition makers did a wonderful job. I tested the first Remington loads, and still have a few. They gave about 1400 feet velocity and proved very accurate. Since then, velocities have been boosted too high, in my opinion, for soft factory bullets. Keyholes result with about one out of every ten shots, as pressures now seem too erratic and high for a six-gun. Recent tests of loads made over a year ago showed an average 1605 feet velocity, pressures which ran from 39,000 pounds upwards, and variations of over 11,000 pounds... far too much for best accuracy. After all this time I still prefer the hand load I worked out for reloading the .44 magnum, just after it came out. It gives around 1400 feet velocity with just under 34,000 pounds pressure, and only 3,000 pounds variation as tested by White's Lab.
I like this load for full mag:
AA No.7, 240gr HDY XTP, 14.5grs., @ 1,145fps, 16.1grs., @ 1,302fps, 34,800psi.
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