Amazon has joined the lib-tards!!

[ampaterry]

I have shopped Amazon.com for YEARS.
Love their merchandise, love their service, love their prices.

Now their CEO has donated 2.5 MILLION to help get a same-sex marriage law passed in Washington state. He says he is countering the stand of Chick-fil-A.

I just went into my Amazon account and cancelled both outstanding orders.
For REASON, I filled in the text box and told them I had been a customer for years, had spent thousands of dollars there, but because of their pro-homosexual stance, I would never spend another dime with them.

Then I went into my account and deleted both of my credit cards I had on record there.

I challenge everyone who realizes sodomy is a perversion to do the same.
Money talks.

[ampaterry]

I should have given a reference for that.

One source that broke the story:
Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-leadership/post/amid-chick-fil-a-uproar-amazon-ceo-jeff-bezos-takes-a-stand-on-gay-marriage/2012/07/27/gJQA2Zy2DX_blog.html?wprss=rss_national)

[BlackEagle]

Shocked, saddened. Posted on facebook.
Will delete my account in due course.

[skullfr]

I too use Amazon but will do no more.My little bit wont hurt them but if God fearing people all over do it it will make a statement.

[BETH]

live and let live

[jack404]

hey you folks got short memories he had a employee start making claims about a cut on his head that got infected while under the bosses desk and it got real quiet after and the guy who made the claim bought a lovely place in Bocca Raton ..

that was the amazon boss , with the staffer doing a monica ..

what the heck you expect from a fag ?

[ampaterry]

Good grief, Jack!!!!!!

Well, the exit was not too painful -
I located a couple other on-line sellers at close to the same price.
Ended up ordering the same things from Walmart.com for a bit cheaper than Amazon had them for! Of course, I now have to pay tax, but with the new TN law passed last year, I was going to have to do that anyway -

[jack404]

and thats how its done Terry , as consumer we get to vote with our dollars ...


now find the shareholders mailing list , should be about $30 for the light version but thats the list you want , the mom and dad investors and small holders , the big guns you pay extra for but they dont care ..

send em all a letter explaining this and ask if they support that

ask them as share holders to raise it at the AGM ...

1 person then calls for a no confidence vote ( share holder who attand AGM can request it , ) 1 more person seconds it , a vote is then called for

Take a good look at the break down of share holders in Amazon .. 38% less than 2000 shares

$1000 for a mail campaign would stop this and send a big message for those who wish to try similar stunts ...

[jack404]

a quick search found this .. about amazon and its very strong swing to the left ..

http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/news/2012/05/24/amazon-shareholders-met-by-protesters.html?page=all

Show identification, prove that you own shares with proxy documentation, go through a metal detector and sign in. That was what people who wanted to get into the Amazon.com Inc. annual shareholders meeting Thursday at the Seattle Art Museum had to do.
Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos gave a presentation and the company announced it was severing ties with the controversial American Legislative Exchange Council, or ALEC, a free-market lobbyist group that has gained attention for opposing the federal health care overhaul and most recently for its support of Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law. Many other corporations, including Coca-Cola, McDonald’s, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and Kraft have all pledged to stop supporting ALEC.

[cycloneman]

did you hear the chick fi a guy died today? I saw it on the news. Had a heart attack they supose. NO joke.

[zkovach]

If possible do business locally! If they don't have it they can order it. Just remember these big CEOs are mostly liberals that believe they know what's best for u. Strengthen your community with purchases not through the. Cheapest ahole on amazon. Sorry for the rant gentleman I'm sick of liberal businessmen. It's an oxymoron!

[ampaterry]

did you hear the chick fi a guy died today? I saw it on the news. Had a heart attack they supose. NO joke.

The head of their PR branch did indeed die of a heart attack.
Could be connected to the amount of negative feedback they have received -
Or it could have been something was done to him by some gay activists. Having dealt with them extensively, I can say they are truthfully the cruelest and most foul-mouthed people I have ever come across.

[jack404]

Terry remember Gordo ? threated me with bio warfare , to poison my water supply , if i did not withdraw my complaint, he came here claiming to be RSL Committee Boss , a phone call had him on his back foot fast and booted out of the RSL a few weeks later

Gordo's claim to fame ? equal rights for gays in the Air force here ( he was a reserve nurse)

gays do the terriblest things and mainly to each other , scam , rip each other off , and justify it always , two here who killed some old gay guy for his money stood up and stated he owed them ... what for ?

then used their gayness to try to get off , both necked themselves before being sentenced , fine with me

[skullfr]

I too try and support my local businesses.Like this pistol I put on lay away.I could do better but rather support my local GS.Sometimes ya gotta order it though.I tried buying a recoil spring but told me it would cost way more if he had to jump hoops to get it.At least I taught him something new as he didnt know about Wolf Spring.

[ampaterry]

Have patience with me, Jack - my brain is in it's 70th year.
A few more details of the Gordo affair - like what is RSL?

[jack404]

I posted up some info on the USS Cities Chicago , a shipwreck here in ww1

later i did a thing on the radio about it and Gordo tracked me to here to have a bitch

i'd just moved here and did not know him or he me , he called me a fake

abused me for getting on the radio and putting up the info without his say so

( Mr Tobin boss of Albion park RSL ( like your VFW) asked me to get the word out as i get radio time , most folks dont , so i said yes and next time i was on air i blabbed about it to get folks to attend , like i was asked)

anyway gordo did a rant accused me of all these wank things , then i find out he's one of the neo nazi's ..

anyway i call his RSL boss and do a formal complaint , print all the threats ( he's now onto me by email ) and the mutt tricks the local radio here to get my address to contact me and puts it up to everyone , jihadi's the lot

i show all this to the RSL

he gets a call from the RSL telling him he can front a panel

he started sending me death threats of bio warfare ( no foolin )

a right nutcase .. typical long term fag ..

he's right or else and the or else is people dying to cover his screw ups


they tossed him out and he was running round trying to get a lawyer to take the case to sue me .. sue the RSL etc ..

then he just went quiet .. bout 3-4 months back , must a finally sunk in ,

[hogger129]

I will no longer do business with them either. I feel that marriage should remain between a man and a woman - the way God intended - and should not be redefined so that psychological problems may be accepted as normal.

[1969SS396]

I will no longer do business with them either. I feel that marriage should remain between a man and a woman - the way God intended - and should not be redefined so that psychological problems may be accepted as normal.

:yeahthat:

[ampaterry]

What a mess, Jack -
BAD folks to deal with, alright!

[gvw3]

I don't think a corporation should be spending shairholders money on anything other than business. How can they justify this?

I am also sick of hearing about the deviate sexual behavioral of the homosexuals. I don't care what people do behind closed doors as it isn't any of my business. Please go back in the closet.

[graehaven]

Will you all be willing to "boycott" the election in November as well, seeing how both of the party front liners are as bad, if not worse, than what Amazon supposedly stands for?

NO?

Didn't think so.

That's far more insidious and far reaching. You that are so willing to vote with your dollars, did you also pull the lever for that sellout Romney in the primaries? You have messed up priorities.

No, I will not boycott Amazon. Take the boycotting thing to its logical conclusion, and you'd have to boycott almost EVERY company you do business with. Why? Because they employ homosexuals, insure them, support them (in some way), etc, blah, blah, blah. It's a losing proposition. It's a waste of time and effort, and only provides them more fodder.

We lost that battle on the marriage and homo issue decades ago.

I will continue to be a good steward with God's money, and shop the best deal no matter WHERE it be found.

And by the way, ANYONE who voted for Romney, "joined the lib-tards." We have seen the enemy, and it is us.

[jack404]

Folks keep telling me , here and from all over , That Oz is a lost cause to guns and islam

i keep hearing how we lost , funny we've tossed 180 laws out the window in the past 10 years or so , pity it took us 6-7 years to get the first ones tossed , but we been pretty regular since .

nothing is impossible when God is included , even bringing the bent ones round to straight ;)

seen that too

have faith mate seriously ,, one day they'll all get a big wake up and be looking for folks like us ( and we wont be here)

[NRA_guy]

I'm running out of places to shop and brands to buy:

Levi Jeans
Home Depot
Amazon
Google shopping
eBay
McDonald's
General Motors

At least I can eat at Chic-Fil-A until they cave

[Jerryboy]

Will you all be willing to "boycott" the election in November as well, seeing how both of the party front liners are as bad, if not worse, than what Amazon supposedly stands for?

NO?

Didn't think so.

That's far more insidious and far reaching. You that are so willing to vote with your dollars, did you also pull the lever for that sellout Romney in the primaries? You have messed up priorities.

No, I will not boycott Amazon. Take the boycotting thing to its logical conclusion, and you'd have to boycott almost EVERY company you do business with. Why? Because they employ homosexuals, insure them, support them (in some way), etc, blah, blah, blah. It's a losing proposition. It's a waste of time and effort, and only provides them more fodder.

We lost that battle on the marriage and homo issue decades ago.

I will continue to be a good steward with God's money, and shop the best deal no matter WHERE it be found.

And by the way, ANYONE who voted for Romney, "joined the lib-tards." We have seen the enemy, and it is us.

there are three ways to vote: Black Obomney, White Obomney, and Ron Paul. guess who i voted for?

[graehaven]

Yes, I too voted for the ONLY God fearing, ONLY Christian, ONLY Constitution loving, ONLY (founding father like) true patriot that was running.

[ampaterry]

Will you all be willing to "boycott" the election in November as well, seeing how both of the party front liners are as bad, if not worse, than what Amazon supposedly stands for?

NO?

Didn't think so.

That's far more insidious and far reaching. You that are so willing to vote with your dollars, did you also pull the lever for that sellout Romney in the primaries? You have messed up priorities.

No, I will not boycott Amazon. Take the boycotting thing to its logical conclusion, and you'd have to boycott almost EVERY company you do business with. Why? Because they employ homosexuals, insure them, support them (in some way), etc, blah, blah, blah. It's a losing proposition. It's a waste of time and effort, and only provides them more fodder.

We lost that battle on the marriage and homo issue decades ago.

I will continue to be a good steward with God's money, and shop the best deal no matter WHERE it be found.

And by the way, ANYONE who voted for Romney, "joined the lib-tards." We have seen the enemy, and it is us.

Apples and oranges.
Our system of government requires we only have one president, while our economic system allows multiple companies to remain in business. One person switching his $$ from one company to another company DOES hurt the one while helping the other, which is my intent.

Paying a wage and benefit package to someone who works for them while living in sin is not viewed, at least by me, as being the same as giving 2.5 million dollars into a political effort to force acceptance of that sin.

I would, absolutely, hire a Democrat that was the best person for the job.
I would never, absolutely, make a donation to the DNC.

[jack404]

Terry , take a look at what we have done to GetUp! here , the CEO has resigned , his greeny politician wife has resigned , they cant justify their statements and the companies that have been funding them have stopped giving them money..., if not for big union donations and the soros mob , they'd be broke so the big moneys out of it and folks are asking where a $10 million dollar donation went , and how much they been paying themselves

while the money flows BS baffles brains ..

when the money stops , folks start to ask where it all went

then feel cheated when they see the top lot taking million dollar wage packages and member funded perks and travel etc

the companies who support them then run a mile and its self imploding

people can do these things if they wish , its apathy and being brain washed into thinking you cant that stops folks

should be more of it ..

[yetiman]

What is puzzling is he said he is doing this in response to what Chick-Fil-A took a stand on? Really? All Mr. Cathy did was say they (Chick-Fil-A) think God knows best how to define a marriage and that it should be between a man and a woman. Now I ask you....is anyone surprised? The store has been banned from most malls because he will not open on Sunday's, has openly been supportive of the Christians over the years and now you have a problem eating there cause you find out he doesn't support gay marriage???

[graehaven]

Apples and oranges.
Our system of government requires we only have one president, while our economic system allows multiple companies to remain in business. One person switching his $$ from one company to another company DOES hurt the one while helping the other, which is my intent.

Paying a wage and benefit package to someone who works for them while living in sin is not viewed, at least by me, as being the same as giving 2.5 million dollars into a political effort to force acceptance of that sin.

I would, absolutely, hire a Democrat that was the best person for the job.
I would never, absolutely, make a donation to the DNC.


Not really. It's the principle. I know many "Christians" who would agree to the boycott, based on a warped biblical application, that turn around and voted for Romney - who demonstrably, is worse than a company employing homosexuals, providing benefits, or that gives to a political organization supporting homo values. So, they'll take a stand on homosexuality, but not on someone who is a sellout on almost EVERY issue that concerns all Americans?????

IF you don't want to shop there, fine, but don't call on others to do it too based on something that's misapplied. It's NOT "right" to boycott Amazon, and "wrong" not too. If it is, then it's TERRIBLY, EARTH-SHATTERINGly WRONG to vote for Romney, and not Paul. Based on same said "Christian" principles. There's NOTHING "Christian" about Romney - at all. And that right there is the bottom line issue, even when it comes to this boycott issue. Actually, Christians being inconsistent is the bottom line issue.

By the way, a similar boycott did nothing to hurt Disney (years ago).

Christians want it both ways, and it needs to stop. Here, how about this? To make it truly fair, why don't we boycott every business who is owned by a person that's gone through non-biblical divorce, or employs people who have gone through non-biblical divorce, or provides benefits to those in a relationship resulting from non-biblical divorce, or those living in adultery or fornication ("Christians" included), eh? Ok? I'd be ok with that then. But we won't do that. It's far easier to judge others (unrighteously) than to live as Christ would have us.

I'm sure I'll now be hated on here even moreso than usual. That's fine. :)

[Willie]

live and let live

How about stand up for what is right? Apathy is what these people count on!

[ampaterry]

Graehaven, I am quite aware that breaking any part of the Law makes one guilty of the whole law. The person who tells a lie is a sinner. The guy that shot 70 people in Colorado is a sinner. Both are sinners. Are you trying to say that the shooting of 70 people is no worse than avoiding a party by claiming you have a previous engagement when you do not?

Bottom line, we are to fight ALL sin, absolutely.
But I am not aware of God wiping out entire cities because they did not follow proper diverce procedure. It is pretty apparent that He considers some sins more heinous than others, by his own example.

[ampaterry]

I will absolutely NOT get into the third party debate; everything that needs to be said about that has already been said, and I would ask that it NOT be brought up again in the interest of avoiding:
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[Gun Geezer]

We are on the downward spiral just as sure as ancient Rome when they over extended their armies fighting in foreign wars, became permissive and morally corrupt, diluted their society with foreigners and slaves. We are repeating history because we have failed to learn from it.

[graehaven]

Graehaven, I am quite aware that breaking any part of the Law makes one guilty of the whole law. The person who tells a lie is a sinner. The guy that shot 70 people in Colorado is a sinner. Both are sinners. Are you trying to say that the shooting of 70 people is no worse than avoiding a party by claiming you have a previous engagement when you do not?

Bottom line, we are to fight ALL sin, absolutely.
But I am not aware of God wiping out entire cities because they did not follow proper diverce procedure. It is pretty apparent that He considers some sins more heinous than others, by his own example.

If you are trying to say that, understandably, to boycott one group/business because of a support of sin, then we should boycott all groups/businesses that do as well (other sin), then yes, that's what I'm saying.

Fight? Yes, the battle exists in our OWN lives. That's what the armor of God is for - the spiritual battle in our own lives. The battle is not with businesses or homosexuals.

[ampaterry]

If you are trying to say that, understandably, to boycott one group/business because of a support of sin, then we should boycott all groups/businesses that do as well (other sin), then yes, that's what I'm saying.


Sorry, I do not agree that putting money into the hands of one who gives it to support perversion is the same as putting money into the hands of someone who has coveted his neighbors new car.


Fight? Yes, the battle exists in our OWN lives. That's what the armor of God is for - the spiritual battle in our own lives. The battle is not with businesses or homosexuals.

Scripture does not support this opinion. The whole armor of God is for:

Ephesians 6:11-12 (KJV);
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

When a billionaire businessman puts 2.5 million into the cause of advancing the acceptance of perversion, then I will absolutely see to it that he receives no more profit from me. I cannot understand NOT doing that.

[graehaven]

Sorry, I do not agree that putting money into the hands of one who gives it to support perversion is the same as putting money into the hands of someone who has coveted his neighbors new car.

No no no. That's not what we were talking about. We were talking about sexual sin. I merely suggested that if we're going to boycott one business for "supporting" those involved in sexual sin, then, it should apply across the board. Those involved in unbiblical divorce, fornication and adultery, should be penalized as well - when it comes to light. Since we've all been involved in a sexual sin (lust) to one extent or another, then, NONE of us has the authority to lift a stone.

Sin is sin. We, as humans, love to quantify it and categorize it, but God looks at it all the same. Yes, the consequences for some may be more severe than others, but, it's all the same.

Scripture does not support this opinion. The whole armor of God is for:

Ephesians 6:11-12 (KJV);
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Yes, exactly..... "we wrestle NOT against flesh and blood..." It's a spiritual battle. The battle is fought on our knees, in prayer. We're not a praying army anymore. It's far more fun to point fingers, boycott, picket, march, write letters, etc., than it is to go in our prayer closet - where there's no cameras or publicity - and get on our knees and engage in the battle there. Where we're supposed to.

Until the CHRISTIANS of this nation COLLECTIVELY get on their knees and humble themselves, and pray, and seek HIS face AND TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS, HE's not going to do anything. Sin abounds in the nation when GOD's people DON'T do as they're supposed to. We don't live like Christ - we live like little pharisaical dictators, and the world can see right through it.

When a billionaire businessman puts 2.5 million into the cause of advancing the acceptance of perversion, then I will absolutely see to it that he receives no more profit from me. I cannot understand NOT doing that.
Yep, and this goes on constantly, in countless businesses, behind the scenes. Maybe it's not in support of the homosexual agenda, perhaps it's in the support of abortion, or drugs and alcohol, or buying legislative votes, etc. The point is, we should then be boycotting ALL of them. Which is entirely fruitless and impractical.

You don't have to answer for his actions and neither do I. I buy books and other items from Amazon almost on a weekly basis. What he does with proceeds after that is up to him, and he's accountable for it.

[graehaven]

I was not aware that my posts warranted such dramatic censure.

I thought civil discourse was allowed, apparently not.

[ampaterry]

Again, sir, God never destroyed entire cities because the inhabitants practiced unbiblical divorce. The claim that God views the perversion of Homosexual activity the same as He views looking at a woman with lust is absolutely not supported by His actions in scripture.

Indeed, Brazos will answer for it.
But I will not answer for enabling him to do that.
Being a good steward requires this.

[ampaterry]

I asked that the old tired third party debate NOT be gone into, and you felt the need to go into it anyway.

Any posts regarding this will be deleted; they have nothing to do with the thread anyway.

[graehaven]

I don't appreciate the condescending "sir," nor do I appreciate being accused of something I did NOT do.

Done.

[ampaterry]

So now Sir, the term I was taught was a title of respect, is now condescending.

Yeah, I am done too.

[Jerryboy]

*cough*for God's sake somebody lock this thread*cough*

[skullfr]

yeah needs to be locked.This is getting nowhere fast.

[ampaterry]

Good idea.
I did not want to be accused of shutting down the opposition by closing it, so THANK YOU for suggesting it, guys!