Kel-Tec Public Opinion Poll

[Winchester73]

I'm just curious as to your opinion of Kel-Tec and their firearms in general. I'm not limiting this opinion poll to one specific gun, rather all of their guns as a whole.

[Fep1990]

They are low cost firearms. I have owned 3 of them ands not had a single problem with them. My current CCW is the P32. Can carry it in the front pocket of shorts and slacks with no printing. The handguns are not for everyday plinking, but are IMHO very good/reliable CCWs. I have several thousand rounds through mine, with just regualr cleaning done to them. I am planning on getting the SU-16b or c this year and also the Sub2000 9mm rifle to go along with all my standard cap G17 magazines

[Winchester73]

I've owned a P11 and shot another one, both were fine. I've shot a Kel-tec P3AT that is really neat, but a tad rough. I'm really wanting a Sub2000 in .40 S&W. Overall, I like 'em but I'm a little leary. I guess when you consider the cost there isn't a whole lot to lose, and their customer service reputation is very good.

[Eagle Guns]

Here's a picture of my three.Top one is a stainless P-11 no longer made,bottom left is a P3AT .380 and lower right is a P-32 Serial #000XX.I was a member of The K.T.O.G. when the P-32s came out and Kel-Tec let the members by them for I think it was $204.00 shipped.I saw some of the first ones sell at auction for nearly $400.00.
LOVE them all. :cool: http://www.fototime.com/2E50825F322753D/standard.jpg

[Winchester73]

Yep, I had a Stainless P11 as well. I guess I bought around 1996 or so...I really didn't have any problems whatsoever...I just traded it for something else. A mistake really, because I'd rather have the Stainless than the hard chrome.

[wizard78]

I didn't have any problems with mine. Just didn't like the DAO action. Got rid of it.

[Carl S]

You get what you pay for. The action is not smooth and the triggers need work. But mine was definitely reliable. Like someone else posted, I don't like DAO and I traded mine.

[rjjrwi]

i've had 2 of the p11 and have a p-32 now , had good luck with all of them , sold the p11's to friends that just had to have one , the p-32 will stay :rolleyes:

[Rugster]

My vote didnt mean much because I had to vote I was shy of them,and I dont think their junk by no means I just could not say they were great.My biggest concern is I wont go below a 9MM for self defense.




Best!!

[Eagle Guns]

My vote didnt mean much because I had to vote I was shy of them,and I dont think their junk by no means I just could not say they were great.My biggest concern is I wont go below a 9MM for self defense.




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Rugster,the P-11 is a 9mm. :)

[drobs]

We sent 3 P32's back to the factory a couple weeks ago with broken trigger reset springs. I've seen at least 3 with the same problem before this. I like that Keltec Su16 rifle but would pass on the handguns.

[offeror]

I've been impressed with the feedback from those who have them, and examined a P11 at the gun show here last weekend. The size & weight were fine, but when I dry fired it -- lordie, that trigger pull... I don't think I've ever found a loooonger pull, probably longer than some can reach, and it must be close to 12 pounds, which is excessive for a non-revolver. It scared me off for the day.

As far as the trigger re-set springs going out, I'm not surprised to hear it given how "mechanical" the trigger pull seems to be. If I were to have a P11 I'd have to FIRST satisfy myself that I had a handy gunsmith to fix that trigger pull the first day, and I'd have to have spare trigger parts and the ability to install 'em myself or have it done cheap. So, all in all, I like them, except for that godawful trigger. If they ever redesign the trigger to something friendlier, I think it will be a very good all-around CCW out of the box, a real value. I don't expect GREAT from a gun this inexpensive, but it's gotta be good enough, and there's no reason they can't engineer a better trigger system for these (IMHO, as usual).

[Winchester73]

Keep on voting! It's interesting to see how these things rank.

[njretcop]

OK,

Now that I am the proud owner of a Kel Tec (Thanks Pabooger) P-11 let me add my view to this discussion. :)

They are inexpensive guns, they are not great, but they are very good! They are not target pistols, but make very good CCW weapons. You can carry 13 rounds (of 9mm) in a very small package. Their customer service is the best! :D

The long trigger pull takes some getting used to, but that's because it is also the safety on the gun just like the Glock. The trigger springs on the newer P-11's have been reduced to 8lbs from the original 12lbs and makes a big difference. :D

Unless or until it fails to go bang every time I squeeze the trigger, I will be a fan of Kel Tec. ;)

[Texas_Shooter]

Curious about them, but not quite ready to spend any bucks yet

[richbug]

I think a P3AT might be nice to keep in my pocket, but I don't know if there is enough gun there that by big arthritic hands can hold onto it.

I think I will wait until Victorinox Puts a 9mm in their model Huntsman model.

[bigdaddyjunior]

I paid $200 for a 32 that weighs next to nothing and is idiot proof. Just pull the trigger. The sub2000 carbine is a hoot! Folds up into a gym bag and shoots 40 cal ammo from a glock mag ie 29 rounds. It looks chumpy but it really works well and the goofy sites actually are very accurate. In theory the pistol would buy me enough time to get to the carbine in the car.

[Fep1990]

This shows how small the P32 actually is. You almost forget you are carrying it
http://tinypic.com/18oyld.

Small, Lightweight, and goes bang every time you pull the trigger. If something does goes wrong, KT customer service will take care of you, most times even if you are the one to mess it up.

[Lowrider]

Kel-Tec? No thanks!

[Salvage33]

Never owned one, never shot one, and all I know is what I see written here about them. That said, can't take part in the poll!

John

[William81]

I have fired a couple different ones and they are decent inexpensive firearms. That being said, I will stick with the Glock 26 or S&W 60 if I need to have a small gun at hand.

[Eagle Guns]

I have fired a couple different ones and they are decent inexpensive firearms. That being said, I will stick with the Glock 26 or S&W 60 if I need to have a small gun at hand.

Both of these guns are bricks compared to the Kel-Tec.Shoot the P-11 a lot and you'll shoot all your other guns much better,That's a fact !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

[Winchester73]

I got the chance today to shoot my friend's brand new Kel-Tec Sub2000 in .40 S&W. It was a blast, we ran 100 rounds of cheap ammo through it with no problems at all. Went with cheapo ammo for the test because in reality it's gonna be a plinker, so it needs to eat as cheaply as possible. I was a little surprised at the recoil, but I shot a one hole 10 shot group at 10yds and a 2" 10 shot group at 25yds. I'm sure I could have done better off of bags. I'm definately gonna get one :cool:

[offeror]

The trigger springs on the newer P-11's have been reduced to 8lbs from the original 12lbs and makes a big difference.
Well, alrighty then. That makes the difference for me. This 9mm is only four tenths of an inch bigger than a Rohrbaugh 9 and costs 1/4 as much; on that basis, and the new 8 lb. trigger, I'd own one. I like the idea of a 9mm pocket pistol. :eek:

[Winchester73]

I don't want to scare you off of the Kel-Tec P-11 Offeror, but that "new 8lb trigger" really isn't a whole lot better in my experience. I owned an early Stainless P-11 9mm like the one Eagle Guns posted above for a few years. It really was reliable, but I didn't shoot it more than 400 rounds or so before I traded it off. Last year a friend bought a P-11 and I shot it quite a bit too. Again, it was reliable...but the trigger still sucked and he traded it off as well.

[Silver72]

Just bought my second P32 today. I couldn't beleive the sweet trigger pull, nothing like the stubburn mule of the first. Can't wait to try it at the range.

[Winchester73]

Thanks for all of the votes and replies. It looks like the majority are still a "shy" of Kel-Tecs partly or completely. I personally have made up my mind to buy a Sub2000 though. Really neat...