Two oldies, Hopkins & Allen + Old Derringer -Percussion

[Rick B]

This forum has been very helpful and I thought I would lump two together and see what you find. The Hopkins & Allen Ranger No.2 was my granddads which my father left in a clothe for to long which tarnished it. I figure its worth maybe $100.00 and the other was found in a car 25 years ago when my father and I used to buy cars from the insurance pools and put them back together. The markings appear to be British proofs & maybe a 8.8 pounds test?

Apparently the metal which had to be worth something as the silver is still on it was taken off. I am thinking it may have been gold for them to steal it. Any help would be appreciated. I may also want to find some one who can form the metal back for it one day. Rick B

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[Rick B]

No one has ever seen these? Rick B