View Full Version : Anti-gun Crowd's next Target??
199er
06-29-2010, 06:31 AM
Aside from the forthcoming law suit after law suit to "redefine" handgun ownership "limits", the next attack to will very likely be on the control (read restriction) of ammunition which, of course also includes reloading..... See below..................
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NRA_guy
06-29-2010, 06:48 AM
Yep. In fact the seed is already planted.
And it will be nation wide and not require any law by Congress:
The ATF can rule all calibers above .22 as "armor piercing" and they become illegal.
The regulation allowing this is already in place. All it takes is a change in interpretation of what is armor piercing.
lentz
06-29-2010, 12:08 PM
I hope this doesn't start hording again.After Obama election,I couldn't find ammo any where.I hope folks keep ther heads this time.
oscarmayer
06-29-2010, 12:21 PM
the wonderul mayor of chicago is already at it. radio rumors ???? ok so you want a gun and the scotus says it's ok . how about a 1000.00 a year permit fee.
graehaven
06-29-2010, 12:58 PM
Yep. In fact the seed is already planted.
And it will be nation wide and not require any law by Congress:
The ATF can rule all calibers above .22 as "armor piercing" and they become illegal.
The regulation allowing this is already in place. All it takes is a change in interpretation of what is armor piercing.
Rifle rounds perhaps. Pistol rounds are NOT armor piercing.
hogger129
06-29-2010, 01:28 PM
Rifle rounds perhaps. Pistol rounds are NOT armor piercing.
They can be. I have heard several people on here - I believe it was on the post about the FN Five-Seven - say that the .38 Super round is armor piercing.
The idea of banning ammunition will also go to the SCOTUS as banning ammo is banning "arms." Ammunition is implied.
Shopnut
06-29-2010, 01:32 PM
The ATF can rule all calibers above .22 as "armor piercing" and they become illegal.
The regulation allowing this is already in place. All it takes is a change in interpretation of what is armor piercing.
I disagree. This is not within the ATF's power. Got a link to the regulation you claim will do it?
Shopnut
06-29-2010, 01:44 PM
Rifle rounds perhaps. Pistol rounds are NOT armor piercing.
You might want to look that up. In the USA, the only ammo defined as armor piercing is pistol ammo that is designed to pierce armor.
http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5300-4.pdf search for "armor".
(17) (A) The term "ammunition"
means ammunition or cartridge cases,
primers, bullets, or propellant powder
designed for use in any firearm.
(B) The term "armor piercing
ammunition" means—
(i) a projectile or projectile core
which may be used in a handgun
and which is constructed entirely
(excluding the presence of traces
of other substances) from one or a
combination of tungsten alloys,
steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium
copper, or depleted uranium; or
(ii) a full jacketed projectile larger
than .22 caliber designed and
intended for use in a handgun and
whose jacket has a weight of more
than 25 percent of the total weight
of the projectile.
The US Code refers to other types of armor peircing ammo, but only as to their sale by the military.
Bobitis
06-29-2010, 06:54 PM
The idea of banning ammunition will also go to the SCOTUS as banning ammo is banning "arms." Ammunition is implied.
Hear Hear! *gavel pounds*:)
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