Amount of Guns & Ammo you can own Legally

[johnlives4christ]

i would think that there is no number of guns, or cases of ammo that a person could not own provided enough space and money.

but with the bs that is imposed on us either outright or through the back door today i wouldnt be surprised if there was a ceiling.

i know that there is a point where if you buy and sell guns too much the atf will suggest you get a license, even if you're doing it for your own personal enjoyment as a regular citizen.

so what would happen if you had several thousand, or several 10,000's of guns?

or what about several 100,000 rounds of ammo, or several 1,000,000?

would there be any legalities a person would need to pursue? any means of storage for that many guns or rounds of ammo?

i've heard that reloaders must store powder in certain manners depending on the quantity, is this true?

~john

[Jay]

I've been involved with firearms for 40 years, and have never heard anything about a limit on firearms or ammunition. I did hear something about powder, but I can't remember if it related to how much you could purchase at one time, or storage. I think that common sense would dictate storing 100 pounds of powder, a bit differently than 2 pounds.... but that's just my opinion, not that of an axpert..

[jack404]

John everyone would place limits on powder

for this ammount you need this ...

for that ammount you need this ...

and for a few ton you need a concrete bunker 1000 yards distant from any other building etc etc etc its a volatile explosive, ammo is a contained unit , with way lower risks

in the land of gun control they know how much you buy , even reloading stuff

hence my joy with the tap o cap, as caps are " a shall produce licence and ID " too

but all explosives are covered and i have a licence to have 5 lbs of BP here as its covered by my business licence plus the appropriate earthed steel storage box with approved lock, but just as a shooter i think its 2lb in this state , it was 3 lbs in South Australia , and just like here i think many places vary there too

when i travel in the USA thats one thing i have to watch , interstate transport of too much explosives is very touchy ( and especially as a non citizen )and the penalties start off in the heavy duty mess your pants area so i only carry my horn and one can in case i'm stopped some places allow a pound some are open and i never know ..

and with my flinters i remove the flints and the bolts from the rifles and lock em in a box as that rule varies too

US state law variation exceed aussie states differences , hmmm nice to know actually ;) so getting a simple answer may not be a simple thing

[carver]

I don't think there is a specific number of guns, or a specific amount of powder, but there is this thing called "hording"! Google "hording guns". If you have a lot of guns in your home, and the police have to enter for any reason, you might find your collection being taken from you.

http://www.beartoothbullets.com/tech...h_notes.htm/60
You can read the whole thing yourself. There is much here regarding ammo, powder and primers. These might represent "best practices" but until someone shows different I do not think these to be federal law.

2. Black Powder whether corned or serpentine is an explosive. Albiet a low-velocity explosive, it is because it is an explosive that the Feds have placed a 50 lbs. limit on personal use. Over 50 lbs. and you need certain permits which I have no further information on and I would bet $$ to donuts that there are specific requirements for your "storage magazine".

[Jeff Midguard]

I did have a temp. job once assisting a driver hauling explosives to a mine in AK. Laws are extremely restritive on hauling and storing any quantity of explosive material. Not sure hat the minimum is.

[Gun Geezer]

Wait a minute! You are telling me, if the police have to come into my home for any reason, let's say my burglar alarm went off (because of a sensor failure) while I was out of town and the police responded and went into my house to make sure it was secure, they would carry off my gun safe and all its contents. That just don't sound right!

[Crpdeth]

Wait a minute! You are telling me, if the police have to come into my home for any reason, let's say my burglar alarm went off (because of a sensor failure) while I was out of town and the police responded and went into my house to make sure it was secure, they would carry off my gun safe and all its contents. That just don't sound right!

Lots of things "just don't sound right" anymore, but that's the world we've found ourselves in...

I'm tying to remember the specifics of a story where the police had to enter a mans home and all hell broke loose because he had so much ammo. I believe the amount was ten thousand rounds, my immediate thought was that a brick of .22 is 500 rounds, It's not that hard to imagine any normal man having a lot more than that if he were shooting several different calibers, but they said that this man was a hoarder and that he had tunnel vision. :rolleyes:


Crpdeth

[carver]

Most of these types of arrests are happening in those States that have restrictive gun laws, CA, IL, MA, etc.

[tcox4freedom]

Wait a minute! You are telling me, if the police have to come into my home for any reason, let's say my burglar alarm went off (because of a sensor failure) while I was out of town and the police responded and went into my house to make sure it was secure, they would carry off my gun safe and all its contents. That just don't sound right!

Actually, I read something very similar to this a few months ago that happened in the NE somewhere.

If I remember, the police were called while the gun owner was out of town. When they entered to clear the home they found more than a dozen firearms and around 40k rounds of ammo.

All of these were confiscated and a warrant was issued for the owner. I think he was actually charged with "public" endangerment. (It seems because he lived in a populated "neighborhood", the ammo posed a "risk" to the public.)

[lawdawg]

I've never known of any police agency in my area of the world to take someone's guns and/or ammo from their homes without just cause. A few years ago we discovered a cashe of weapons (literally thousands of guns and cases of ammo) in a man's home. The man was disabled ( both legs amputated), legally blind, and had mental problems. He lived alone and regularly called police because he thought "God Almighty" lived in his attic, and people were walking through his walls to harm him. He always greeted us in his wheelchair with a S&W J-Frame .38 in his lap.

One night we cleared his house after one of his first complaints just to humor him and discovered the overwhelming amount of guns that filled, floor to ceiling and wall to wall, several rooms in his house. Many of these guns were still in their original boxes and were some relatively expensive guns. After picking my jaw off the floor and wiping the drool from my chin, we assured him his house was clear and we left. The man, although he obviously had mental problems, was harmless. We never took the guns from his home and felt we had no reason to, although we did approach with a little more caution when he called us after that. Unto the day of his death, that man never used one of his many, MANY guns for harm to my knowledge. We worried more about someone stealing his guns than we did him using the guns for wrongdoing.

There is a very big difference in someone owning guns, even a large amount of guns, and someone owning guns wishing to use them for harm. It's really not that hard to know the difference in most cases. If this old man had ever become so delusional that he was a danger to himself and/or others, then it would probably been in everyone's best interest to remove those guns from his possession. But such was not the case. We possibly could have legally justified the confiscation of the guns due to his mental state, but why? He was harmless and we all knew it (although we made damn sure he knew it was the police knocking on his door when we resonded to his regular calls from then on).

[dge479]

Whatever fits in your house is fine

[medalguy]

Powder storage is regulated by the NFPA (National Fire Protection Association) and generally DOT concerning transportation and storage for commercial purposes. An individual is, I believe, allowed to store 25 pounds of powder in a residence, and 50 pounds in a residence provided it's stored in an approved magazine. There are various types of storage requirements depending on the amount of powder to be stored.

I built a magazine sufficient for more powder than I'll ever store behind my house (I'm in a rural area) and had my local county fire marshal check it over before I used it. I presently have about 200 pounds of powder there and I've had considerably more at times.

I'm not aware of any limitations on ammunition and certainly not firearms. However many guns you currently have, you need more, in my opinion.

[johnlives4christ]

wonder what they would do to you if you have too much powder stored in the wrong way.

[jack404]

HERE in Oz its different state to state , but 400 lbs gots a guy 12 years here a few months ago , but he was a idiot and had it stacked up in a tin shed all together ...

i suggest you look at your safety sheets for black powder ,

http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5400-7.pdf

[carver]

Lawdawg, what do you suppose would have happened to this man's horde of guns had your Chief been one of those men who thought that only cops, and soldiers should have guns? Or maybe the DA, or the Mayor?

Another thing we all might want to consider is to notify the Fire Dept. of any powder/ammo that you keep in your home. They don't really like responding to a fire and have a bunch of ammo going off while they are trying to save your house. There are stickers that you can use on your windows to notify Fire Dept personell of what is in a room. I don't recommend advertizing, but I do advocate just telling them. I live in a rual area, and the Fire Depts. here are completly all volunteer. Some of these men are my neighbors, and I have worked with some of them.

[lawdawg]

Lawdawg, what do you suppose would have happened to this man's horde of guns had your Chief been one of those men who thought that only cops, and soldiers should have guns? Or maybe the DA, or the Mayor?

He probably would have petitioned to have the man declared a mental defective and gotten a court order to seize the guns. There is no particular law in this state concerning the amount of guns one may possess, but, as always, there are ways around the law or lack thereof.

The man was clearly a collector as most of these guns, or at least the ones we saw, appeared to have never been taken out of their original box much less shot. If he were actually shooting them at the imaginary people living in his walls and ceiling, then it would have been in everyone's best interest to remove all the guns from the man's possession, but such was not the case.

[Gunkpowder]

If there was/is a limit I surely wouldn't conform. We are Americans! We need to emulate our founding Fathers! They did not conform to the whims of Britain. Our own government is like the crown of Britain that our founding Fathers fought against. We must not abide by it's Marxist tendencies, however small.

[johnlives4christ]

gkp, that is true. however, in this day and age, should they decide to limit such a thing, the law would get passed and then, systematically, they would bring each and every gun owner/storer into subjection. until eventually, just like social security, you have no choice.

[jack404]

just like they did here ....

stop em . stop em now!

[johnlives4christ]

i wish we could stop them jack, but the problem is that most gun owners do not want to shed blood over something seemingly as unimportant as the number of rounds your gun can fire without reloading.

once everyone elses guns are illegal, it will be too late to fight for the ones that still are.

what we need to do is stop playing political games and rally gun owners to disregard any and all gun laws and resist with force any attempt to enforce the gun laws or imprison those that resist.

getting people to see the importance of the details is impossible though. we are too busy bickering amongst ourselves over petty differences to be able to combine forces strong enough to make a difference.

because every gun owner has their own agenda. one wants all people to be able to own any gun, some like it the way it is, some want machine guns to be legal, some just want hunting guns and dont care about assault weapons. because non of us has ever had to fight a tyrannical government for something as petty as owning a steel shovel, most of us dont see any threat to, or any need for weapons that could potentially stop a full scale government take over.

[medalguy]

"wonder what they would do to you if you have too much powder stored in the wrong way."

For starters, your homeowner's insurance would be void. Then, there's the matter of the fire marshal declaring your home a fire hazard. No thanks, I'll use the safe storage prescribed by the fire codes.

[johnlives4christ]

i dont have any insurance because i live in an upstairs apartment of an old building that they wont insure.

and the fire marshal would crap a haligon if he seen the wiring thats in this 100+ year old former hardware store building. can you imagine the wiring a bunch of hardware store idiots "improved" upon?

[Gun Geezer]

I was in my favorite gun store the other day, adopting my new baby. (G-30SF) My sales lady and I were joking about what guns we would buy if we won the lottery. She mentioned several they had in the display cases. I remembered this post and asked her if Florida had a limit on the number of guns you could buy at one time or in total. She said as far as she knew there was no limit. I said, " you mean if I won the lottery and came in here and said I'll take one of each, you would sell them to me"?
They must have had more than a hundred hand guns in the display cases alone.
"Honey", she said, "I'll personally help load them in your truck! But I'm gonna need some help with the paperwork."

[Teejay9]

I have thought for some time now that the rash of gun laws have been added is because the Government does not want the "Inner City" folk to be armed. Very un-PC, I know. When you look at all the cities that have strong laws against gun ownership, they have a very large portion of "inner city" people to deal with. They usually don't buy collector grade guns, go hunting, or even practice. But, they can't limit the freedoms of just these folks, so they just blanket everyone. Here in CA, they tried to limit the number of cartridges in one's personal "arsenal" to 50 rounds a month, but couldn't make it fly. I believe that most of the gun laws are aimed at the inner city people because they have a tendency to riot and burn things down. Just a thought that been rolling around in my head for years. TJ

[3/2 STA SS]

In Florida they limit the purchases through a gun store to one a month-I believe.

[johnlives4christ]

i'd guess you're mistaken, alpo and a few others are in florida, and i haven't heard anything bout it. im we'd hear about it non stop if that was the case STA

[CMAA]

Wait a minute! You are telling me, if the police have to come into my home for any reason, let's say my burglar alarm went off (because of a sensor failure) while I was out of town and the police responded and went into my house to make sure it was secure, they would carry off my gun safe and all its contents. That just don't sound right!

Of course it's not right - because it's not true - like half the stories one reads by delusional paranoids, reads on the (Edited by Admin) walls, or hears on Talk Radio.

I was a cop for twenty years in a small city just south of Chicago. We had a number of folks who had their own 'armories' so to speak; many of which we knew about - and I'm quite sure others we didn't. There wasn't any limit on 'numbers' - if the weapons were legal and the owners not involved in crime - we had no interest in seizing them. Now we did have one whack job who's mental condition I wasn't too keen on, but he was a special "Buddy" of our Chief of Police. When he died, though he had only about 25 weapons in his house, mostly military style long-arms - none fully auto - he did have almost 50,000 rounds of .223, 7.62, and 9mm. A little bit more than a 'Nice Day at the Range' and a real pain in the azz for me and several others humpin' all that out in several loads in the Paddy Wagon.

[Big ugly]

CMAA AWWWW POOR POOR YOU! THAT explains alot here. YOU ONE OF THOSE CHICAGO CRONIES,:rolleyes: My dad is a licensed gunsmith, and I can tell you this, what you found in that fellers house prolly wasnt enough. Look at in terms like this, Between my father and my brother and I in one location we have more than 25 guns. WAYYYY more;) I can tell you this me personally I have more than 25 guns alone, And I have been downsizeing my collection. Now as far as ammo, there is never enough. Between my reloads and factory shells I can be considered to have close to 10,000 rounds in my own right and as far as my dad LOL, I aint saying LOL.

I buy ammo in bulk when I can afford it, I buy reload supplys in bulk when I can afford it too. Its like this, There is never TOO MUCH AMMO period, Same with guns.

[Alpo]

In Florida they limit the purchases through a gun store to one a month-I believe.

Oh, that is so incorrect.

Virginia - one a month. California - one a month. Florida - as many as you can afford.

[Archie]

Medal Guy mentioned fire codes that regulate amounts of powder and primers that can be stored in a residence. Those are the only nation wide limitations to my knowledge. I'll have to look again, but I do not think ammunition is specifically mentioned.

I'm sure there are various state laws that might limit number of firearms, but those are limited in scope and location.

Powder is highly flammable and primers are shock and heat sensitive and can cause a serious explosion of a big stack of them ignite. Aside from fire codes, common sense dictates they be stored properly.

On the subject of insurance; I just bought a home and obtained home owner's insurance. They didn't ask me about ammunition or powder or primers. They did say if I had a good number of firearms, those might not be covered individually. Personal effects have a blanket coverage, but is limited to a percentage of the over all cost of the home. The insurance folks suggested I put together a list of my collection and get a quote for those items - and anything else of high value - that might not be covered by the general provision.

John, may I gently remind you Jesus said “Then give to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” Christians cannot ignore government because that government does not comply with our political beliefs. At the very least we must be ready to stand the consequences of such actions.

[johnlives4christ]

i do need reminding once in a while. thanks

[medalguy]

You're right about the insurance not covering a lot of guns. I spoke to my insurance carrier a few years back about insuring my guns. They wanted a list by make, model, and serial number so I told them to take a flying leap. I have a vault I don't think will be broken into any time soon. Ammo and powder weren't mentioned so I didn't bring the subject up for discussion.

I've never seen any kind of limits on the amount of ammo you can possess. Whatever you can afford is what you can have. I can't imagine living in a state where you might be limited to 50 rounds a month. I may shoot 1,000 rounds in one session at the range. FIFTY??? Fuggitaboutit. :mad:

[artabr]

Lots of things "just don't sound right" anymore, but that's the world we've found ourselves in...

I'm tying to remember the specifics of a story where the police had to enter a mans home and all hell broke loose because he had so much ammo. I believe the amount was ten thousand rounds, my immediate thought was that a brick of .22 is 500 rounds, It's not that hard to imagine any normal man having a lot more than that if he were shooting several different calibers, but they said that this man was a hoarder and that he had tunnel vision. :rolleyes:


Crpdeth

There was a story out of Mass. within the last couple of years. I think that is the story that Donny is thinking of. Like Donny, I can't remember the particulars to the story or the charges.

Edit:
Found the story.

http://www.eagletribune.com/haverhill/x1650955490/Police-Man-said-30-000-bullets-were-for-target-practice?keyword=topstory

Police: Man said 30,000 bullets were for target practice
He is held on $500,000 bail

By Paul Tennant
ptennant@eagletribune.com

HAVERHILL — Keni Garcia told police he intended to use the 30,000 bullets they found in his car and home for target practice.

That is hard to believe, the prosecutor at Garcia's arraignment said, because if he were to fire a gun for eight hours a day, it would take weeks for him to use all of it.

Garcia, who allegedly bought thousands of rounds of ammunition and had 10,000 bullets in his car when he was stopped by police Thursday, was ordered held on $500,000 cash bail yesterday.

Attorney Socrates de la Cruz of Lawrence, who represented Garcia, 32, of 12 Freeman St., at his arraignment in Haverhill District Court, said he will appeal the high bail in Superior Court.

Garcia is charged with three counts of possession of a high-capacity firearm, illegal possession of ammunition and illegal storage of a firearm. His case was continued until June 12.

Assistant District Attorney Christopher Holland asked Judge Patricia Dowling to impose $750,000 cash bail.

"He has no reason to stay here," Holland said.

The judge ordered Garcia to surrender his passport, and said that if he makes bail he is not to leave Massachusetts.

Garcia is a native of the Dominican Republic who was expected to become a U.S. citizen yesterday, but then he was arrested, authorities said.

Police arrested Garcia after he had left Interstate 495 at Exit 49 Thursday. They said they found 10,000 rounds of ammunition in his car. His two young daughters also were in the car, police said.

Holland said at Garcia's arraignment that a "joint effort" by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and state police found that Garcia had previously bought 20,000 rounds of ammunition in New Hampshire.

Garcia told police he only intended to use the bullets for target practice at a rifle range, Holland said, disputing Garcia's explanation. His common law wife, Elizabeth Reynoso, consented to a search and police found another 20,000 rounds, Holland said. They also found one .38-caliber and two 9 mm handguns, and $25,000 in cash, Holland said.

The prosecutor said all of the bullets seized from Garcia were for .38-caliber, 9 mm and .22-caliber firearms. Such ammunition is "like gold in the Dominican Republic," he said.

Holland said Reynoso told police he had "a shipping type of business" and that the $25,000 in cash must have come from Garcia cashing a business check.

"Where is the crime?" de la Cruz asked. The lawyer said Garcia had lived in New Hampshire for three years before recently moving to Haverhill.

"He bought the guns legally," de la Cruz said. "He never hid the fact that he had them."

Furthermore, de la Cruz said that when Garcia moved to Haverhill, he had a 60-day grace period to obtain a Massachusetts firearms card.

"There is no crime committed," he argued, saying there was no evidence that Garcia was shipping guns or ammunition to the Dominican Republic.

He asked the judge to allow his client "to go back to his job." He said Garcia has worked at a local bakery for three years.

Yesterday, Freeman Street residents interviewed by The Eagle-Tribune said they did not know anything about Garcia or guns and ammunition being stored at or shipped from his home.

Medline Abiles, of 43 Freeman St., who resides across the street from Garcia's house, said that in the two months she has lived in the neighborhood, she has not observed any weapons or ammunition and had no reason to be suspicious. Her sister, Carmen Reyes, who visits frequently, said she also had never noticed anything suspicious at the two-family house at 12 Freeman St.




Art

[Alpo]

You know, that really does sound bad. "...had 10,000 bullets in his car ...", but 22 ammo comes 50 rounds to a box, 500 to a brick and 5000 to a case. When I bought my Mini Mags, I bought two cases, so I was driving home with 10,000 bullets in my truck. Oh the humanity. If he shot for 8 hours a day it would take him weeks? So? Is there some rule in Massa-husetts that says you must shoot the ammo you buy within a 24-hour period? I turned up a box of Remington Golden Bullets, t'other day, with an AIM price tag on 'em. The AIM store, in my town, has been closed since 1986.

[Big ugly]

Alpo you sound like my dad LOL. When we moved him from Ohio to GA a few years back we packed his guns in his truck and his ammo and reloading stuff in the U-Haul truck, There was things in his gun room he hadnt seen in years. Hell we found a Little .22 Baby Browning he forgot he even had LOL.

[Jim K]

NFPA does not "regulate" anything. It makes recommendations for legislation that concerns fire safety, among which are the amounts of black and smokeless powder a person can possess without having an approved magazine. There are local and state laws more or less in line with those recommendations.

There is not, AFAIK, any federal law limiting the number of guns or the amount of ammunition a person can own. I know a man who has around a hundred machineguns, plus large numbers of other weapons, and no one cares, not even BATFE or the CLEO when he buys a new NFA toy.

Jim

[CampingJosh]

...with 10,000 bullets in my truck. Oh the humanity.

You forgot to count your CCW! You had, like, 10,008! And more than that, you had two kinds of ammo at the same time!

Oh the humanity, indeed. :D

[johnlives4christ]

from what i understand the limit for powder is 50 pounds when stored properly and 10,000 primers. thats a suggestions from uhm.. i forget who. dunno if its actually law though

anyone know ? and anyone know what kinda trouble you could get in if you get caught storing too much powder the wrong way? othern burning the house down of course?

[Martin S]

I know a guy that has a school bus converted for his guns and ammo. He takes it out west P dog shooting. I would hate to guess how many rifles and pistols he has in it. Drawer after drawer full. There is also drawer full of different powder and ammo for all the weapons. It takes up all one side of the bus. I'm not talking about a little bus either. If the towns he drives through knew what was in the bus, I'm sure he would go to jail. If it got on fire it would be like an A Bomb.
Martin:eek:

[RunningOnMT]

Alpo you sound like my dad LOL. When we moved him from Ohio to GA a few years back we packed his guns in his truck and his ammo and reloading stuff in the U-Haul truck, There was things in his gun room he hadnt seen in years. Hell we found a Little .22 Baby Browning he forgot he even had LOL.

That's my goal...to own so many guns I forget some of them.:D

[howlnmad]

I'm curious about the post from CMAA. This "whack job" not have any next of kin? What happened to said ammo and firearms?

[johnlives4christ]

That's my goal...to own so many guns I forget some of them.:D

my goal is to have so many that a person with a pickup truck and all day couldnt steal them all, but to have a certain few that are so precious to me i take them wherever i go.

[gendoikari87]

if you have a million rounds of ammunition i don't think it'll be the atf beating down your door, more like the local fire department.

seriously though? not sure on any legal restrictions on ammo but i'd think there would be good and bad ways to store a few thousand rounds of ammo, it is basically a giant bomb under the right circumstances. so you'd want to take proper precautions regardless of law.

[gendoikari87]

he did have almost 50,000 rounds of .223, 7.62, and 9mm. A little bit more than a 'Nice Day at the Range' and a real pain in the azz for me and several others humpin' all that out in several loads in the Paddy Wagon.

honestly if I ever do get a shooting range in my back yard or real close to my house, and had the proper storage devices, i'd love to buy bulk 1000 round cases. just so I wouldn't have to re stock but once a season.

[johnlives4christ]

most i ever had at a time was probably like 3 thousand rounds. i had it stored in a rubbermaid tote.

[gendoikari87]

Yeah but thats not a whole lot. The only real concern is fire. And individual bullets are fairly safe as long as you don't light a bon fire on them or your house burns down, its the powder kegs you have to worry about. Once I get settled down and actually start reloading so i can AFFORD to shoot centerfire, I plan on making a small cement sarcophagus to house the powder. I mean dads got the extra cement lying around after he retired and I can get stuff to make a mold cheap so, why not right? saftey first.

[Alpo]

For the gentlemen up the thread that have never heard of a cop taking somebody's guns for no reason, I present the illustrious Sheriff's Department of San Luis Obispo California.

Man doing target practice on his own land, as he has done for years. Cops respond to "shots being fired". Annoyed at being sent so far out into the boonies to investigate, the deputies commit armed robbery under guise of "enforcing the law".

No "he said/he said". This was all captured on dash cams and police recorders. First how they plan to break the law, and then how they plan to justify breaking the law.

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=80036&highlight=Darren+Murphy

[rentalguy1]

When he died, though he had only about 25 weapons in his house, mostly military style long-arms - none fully auto - he did have almost 50,000 rounds of .223, 7.62, and 9mm. A little bit more than a 'Nice Day at the Range' and a real pain in the azz for me and several others humpin' all that out in several loads in the Paddy Wagon.

1. Why did you know how many weapons or how much ammo he had in his house, dead or alive? It was none of your business.

2. It is not illegal to own fully automatic weapons if you have the correct paperwork. Again, none of your business.

3. Why were you lugging out all that ammo after the guy died? Do all firearms and ammo become property of the state after the owner dies? That's a load of crap!

It is NO cop's business what guns I own, or how much ammo I have. I have lot's of cop friends, but you sound like one of them that gives the rest a bad reputation. You're a cop, not God. Get over yourself.






if you have a million rounds of ammunition i don't think it'll be the atf beating down your door, more like the local fire department.

seriously though? not sure on any legal restrictions on ammo but i'd think there would be good and bad ways to store a few thousand rounds of ammo, it is basically a giant bomb under the right circumstances. so you'd want to take proper precautions regardless of law.

Again with the misinformation. Having been a firefighter that fought a fire in a hardware store that had millions of rounds of ammunition, and all of their respective reloading components, I can tell you that none of it reacted as a "bomb." All of the rounds went off with a individual bang, and not a collective boom. Also, while it was still a dangerous situation, it wasn't like one would think. The bullets did not travel very far, because they had nothing to contain the pressure they produced when they went off and propel them. The rounds stored in fireproof containers also went off. They don't have to be physically in a fire to go off. They only have to reach their individual flash point.

I'm also curious as to how the BATFE, the local PD or FD, or anyone else would know how many rounds I have. Again, it's none of their business. PERIOD!

[Alpo]

2. It is not illegal to own fully automatic weapons if you have the correct paperwork. Again, none of your business.



Actually, it is in the state of Illinois, which is where he says this was.

[gendoikari87]

1. Why did you know how many weapons or how much ammo he had in his house, dead or alive? It was none of your business.

2. It is not illegal to own fully automatic weapons if you have the correct paperwork. Again, none of your business.

3. Why were you lugging out all that ammo after the guy died? Do all firearms and ammo become property of the state after the owner dies? That's a load of crap!

It is NO cop's business what guns I own, or how much ammo I have. I have lot's of cop friends, but you sound like one of them that gives the rest a bad reputation. You're a cop, not God. Get over yourself.








Again with the misinformation. Having been a firefighter that fought a fire in a hardware store that had millions of rounds of ammunition, and all of their respective reloading components, I can tell you that none of it reacted as a "bomb." All of the rounds went off with a individual bang, and not a collective boom. Also, while it was still a dangerous situation, it wasn't like one would think. The bullets did not travel very far, because they had nothing to contain the pressure they produced when they went off and propel them. The rounds stored in fireproof containers also went off. They don't have to be physically in a fire to go off. They only have to reach their individual flash point.

I'm also curious as to how the BATFE, the local PD or FD, or anyone else would know how many rounds I have. Again, it's none of their business. PERIOD!

Notice I said under the right circumstances. yes it's more likely to go off individually, and that's dangerous enough, but do you really wan to take the chance. There are cases where ammo dumps have exploded. it might be unlikely but that doesn't make it safe.

[Double D]

In Florida they limit the purchases through a gun store to one a month-I believe.

Not so. But, it is the law that a gun dealer must report any sale of more than one handgun to the same person. Doesnt mean you cant buy them, just that they have to know about it.

[Alpo]

Not so. But, it is the law that a gun dealer must report any sale of more than one handgun to the same person. Doesnt mean you cant buy them, just that they have to know about it.

More than one in a short period of time (a week, I think). Not just selling more than one to the same person. Over a five-year period I probably bought fifty from the same dealer, without him ever having to inform anyone.

[berto64]

As many guns and as much ammunition I can afford in Idyho.

[gendoikari87]

anybody know how gun friendly Tennessee is? i'm moving there soon.

[johnlives4christ]

its fair. i konw that you cant open carry as you can in kentucky and that you cant have a loaded vehicle in a car as you can in ky without a license (glove box). atleast this is what a friends father told us. i had an ar 15 in the car, in a case with loaded mags in the case with it. he said ammo had to be in a separate container during transport.

dunno how true all this is

[Double D]

More than one in a short period of time (a week, I think). Not just selling more than one to the same person. Over a five-year period I probably bought fifty from the same dealer, without him ever having to inform anyone.

Any time you purchase more than one handgun during the period of 5 consecutive business days, the sale must be reported on ATF form 3310.4 by the close of the business day on which you sold or disposed of the 2nd gun. A copy must be forwarded to the ATF and also to local law enforcement or state police in the state where the sale occured.

[Alpo]

Yeah, that's what I said. Your original post just said "more than one to the same person", like if I bought a pistol and then 6 months later bought another one, you'd have to report it. I was just pointing out that it was multiple pistol purchases within a short time-frame.

[Double D]

Yea, after reading my post I see where I worded it wrong the first time. Thanks