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    1. woolleyworm
      Amen Zane, he's one of the foundation blocks that helped this forum grow. His spirit lives on and I try my best to handle the repetitive questions as easily as Mr Goforth did. He never let a new member down.
    2. Zane71464
      Gone but not forgotten ...
    3. 38wildwood
      Hi Bill,
      I'm thankful for you shared knowledge on the FI Model D and variants! I started a restoration of one based on Bobs of AR listing the parts that Numrich didn't have, only to find out he has NOTHING! I'm hoping you might be willing to part with some of your shelved project's pieces, or if you still have a list of parts for these pistols that you will sell. Mine is serial CPA0188xx, has the old style extractor that's been filed to kingdom come.... I'm wondering if the new style extractor would work in this pistol, it appears the new style uses no spring?
      Thanks again for all you've shared on these pistols.
    4. Pistolutah
      I have a Iver Johnson 38 S&W with serial number H59896 and want to know if you could tell me the year it was manufactured and if I can use modern smokeless ammo? I have had it cleaned and tested with Remington 38 S&W 146 grain lead shot but wanted to ask your opinion. Thanks for your help!
    5. grizz52
      I have an IJ that says Bulldog on the top strap...no markings on the barrel...the serial number under the grips is 4952 no letter designation and that is confirmed under the trigger guard tghat can only be seen when you remove the trigger guard. Any idea what I have and yr of manufacture?
    6. Rmasters3
      Just picked up an IJ Safety Hammerless, with 6" barrel 38 S&W. Serial number on trigger guard is 60258, but under the left grip it's prefaced with a "D". Haven't been able to get much information on the IJ, and they say you are the IJ guru. What can you tell me about it? Thanks Bob Masters
    7. Kcarroll2007
      Well I'm posting because I recently had a H&R 922 come into my possession. While disappointed to read of bgoforth's passing, I'm hoping there might be someone else who might be interested in my find. Bgoforth posted several times about his database of over 2000 H&R 922 serial numbers, the lowest of which started 125. The reason for my post is that the serial of the 922 I now have in my possession is lower...It actually starts 122. I have no idea if this is significant or not, or if it's of interest to anyone? It's not in the best of conditions, missing the grip, however the serial number is clearly visible. If anyone can tell me more or is interested in my find as a collector or researcher, please contact me at kcarroll119@gmail.com
    8. dennis2146
      Good morning. I am a new member and found this site yesterday while looking for information about my H&R Sportsman .22 revolver. The serial number is S15925 and that number is also stamped on the bottom of the original box which also includes the instructions and a piece of waxed paper. The left side of the barrel is stamped H&R Sportsman and Single Action under that. The right side of the barrel is stamped 22 Long Rifle Ctg. The top of the barrel is stamped Harrington and Richardson Arms Co. and under that is Worcestor, Mass. U.S.A. The cylinder displays two patent numbers. The serial number is stamped on the front of the grip frame, and the last three numbers are stamped on the cylinder and the ratchet. The trigger and hammer both appear to be nickle plated. I have been told that this revolver was produced in 1933 by one person but another person has told me it was a late issue in the fourth series. It is pictured in the 1939 copy of The Shooters Bible. Can you please give me some information on the gun regarding its history. I have found it to be a very accurate and well built firearm, shooting as well or better than my S&W K-22. It seems to be about 98% condition in the box so I don't shoot it too often. Thanks for any information you can provide on the gun. Dennis
    9. Ell
      I have an Iver johnson A7501 was the ser# under the grip. June 16.96 Aug. 25.96 on the butt and an owl looking toward the trigger on the grip. Can you give me an idea of how old this gun is.
    10. Troyj
    11. Troyj
      Ive read nearly all that these forum have on iver johnsons and I'm getting conflicting iformation and you seem to actually know what your talking about I hope this is still an active way to contact you. My email is tjohns257778@gmail.com. I have what looks like a late model 38 sw with a 22cal "western style" handle that screws from the bottom it has a hammer blued and bullet ejector. The part I'm worried about it that the serial 91043 has no letter in the front. The gun doesn't appear to be 100 years old but I was told that with no letter in the serial ment it was black powder only. is that true? Is this common with what appears to be a "late third gen 4 model" as you reffered to one that looked exactly like mine minus the lack of letter in the serial. I would send pics but I cant without your direct email this forum doesn't have an attachment option on emailling you. Thank you so much
    12. grapher
      I was reading up on a post you made a couple years backwhen you were helping someone out with a Defender they owned. I also have a defender, but mine is the Defender '89. Im having a problem with the cylinder locking mechanism that you might be able to help me out with since you have had some experience with it. I just bought this gun the other day knowing that the cylinder lock did not work but it was cheap so I bought it. When I was looking at it, it was like there was no tension spring holding the lock into place. The cylinder will just spin freely unless it is cocked. So I took it apart and found what looks to be the spring, but im not sure if its actually for the cylinder lock or not. I took it out and the gun still works the same, so im thinking that this spring is the problem. I tried to see if I could put it back in, but I couldn't find out how it went back in the right way (if it was even in the wrong way). Can you help me with this problem? Thanks!
    13. tsconlin
      Have a .32 short 5 shot pistol with Iver Johnson Arms and Cycle Works Fitchburg Mass. USA on top of Barrel. Serial Number below trigger guard is 11209, PAT NOV 13 on bottom of grip. Any information you can give me would be much appreciated. I am cleaning it up for my Father in-law for Father's Day.
    14. jloomis12
      I was hoping you could tell me what year my H&R model 939 was manufactured . The first four of the serial number are ac77. It has a lock on the bottom of the but to lock the action if that helps any . Any info would be much appreciated.
      Thank you
    15. b.goforth
      greveagle... I am sorry to inform you that my father b.goforth passed away several weeks. Sorry for the inconvenience.
      Holly Goforth Frank
    16. greyeagle
      b.goforth, I just read your answer to a person on a H&R 922 wanting to know the date of manufacture. I just wanted to let you know I also have a 922 with a serial number starting with an E (E9979). Serial number is also on the back of the cylinder. Thanks
    17. b.goforth
      five patent date on the bottom of the butt and a serial number of N 32160 indicates this is a second model small frame safety automatic hammer revolver. it was manufature in 1905.

      (Black Powder Cartridges)------------1896-1908
      LARGE FRAME AND SMALL FRAME VERSIONS USES HAMMER THE HAMMER ACTION: Double top post barrel latch, nickel finish standard, blue optional, hard rubber grip panels with Owls head at top. Hammer the Hammer action, two frame sizes, and three calibers. Standard barrel length: small frame 3 inches, large frame 3 ¼ inches; Calibers: small frame .22 rimfire 7 rounds cylinder capacity, .32 centerfire 5 rounds cylinder capacity, large frame .38 centerfire 5 rounds cylinder capacity; Weight: small frame with 3 inch barrel .22 rimfire 12 ounces, .32 centerfire 12 ¼ ounces, large frame with 3 ¼ inch barrel 17¼ ounces; Frame height: small frame 3 ¼ inches, large frame 3 7/8 inches; Frame length: small frame 4 3/26 inches, large frame 5 inches; Overall length: small frame with 3 inch barrel 6 3/8 inches, large frame with 3 ¼ inch barrel 7 3/8 inches. Only difference between the first and second model is the barrel latch. Main serial number location on left side of grip frame grips must be removed to see. The Second Model features a double top post barrel latch, flat leaf hammer spring and two cross pins in the lower frame.
      VALUE: 100%=$275 60%=$135
      For revolvers equipped with Bourne Knuckleduster add 100%

    18. chunkymunkey
      Bill, I have what I believe is a third variation IJ safety automatic in .32 cal; butt strap reads,"PAT'D APR 6.86 FEB 15.?? MAY 10.87 MAR 13.88 AUG 25.96 PAT'S PENDING. Serial # under left grip is N32160. Finish is blue and I would estimate around 80% condition. I would like to know date of manufacture and approx. value for potential purchase. Thank you in advance!

    19. b.goforth
      this most likely a first model 1st variation H&R Hammerless Model (made for black powder only). not a copy of an iver johnson but made at the same time. the H&R's have a completely different internal mechansim.

      Small Frame Double Action Hammerless Top Break revolver with double top post barrel latch; caliber and cylinder capacity, 32 S&W (5 rounds), None of the catalogs I have seem indicates the First Model was offered in 22 rimfire; finish is nickel or blue (optional); grips are hard rubber with a target logo at the top; standard barrel length is 3 ¼ inch, with 4, 5 and 6 inch optional; rebounding hammer; automatic cylinder stop; no caliber markings on left side of barrel. NO CALIBER MARKING ON LEFT SIDE OF BARREL DESIGNED FOR BLACK POWDER CARTRIDGE PRESSURES
      First Variation, patent dates 10-4-87, 4-2-95, 4-7-96, serial number range; 01*-82000*(Estimate) ----------1899-1903
      Second Variation, patent dates 5-14-89,4-2-95, 4-6-96, serial number range; 82000*-90000* (Estimate) ------------1904-Only
      VALUE: 100%=$255 60%=$95 Add 10% premium for blue finish; 20% premium 4”, 5” or 6” barrel
    20. cardot2000
      since i showed a few of my friends the iver johnson i wrote you about, they pulled out a few of their older guns to show. one friend showed me a gun that looked just like my iver johnson but was made by a different company. The gun has the following information on the top of the barrell: Harrington & Richardson Arms Company, Worcester Mass USA - Pat. OCT. 4,87 APR. 2,95 APR. 7,96. looks like 32 cal. Serial # under left grip is 7096. Double Hammer Spring. Hammerless. 3" barrell. Top Break. Double post. Cylinder locks at rest. Can you share any information regarding this gun. Is it a copy of the iver johnson? Thank you for all your time and any information.
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    Apr 13, 1940 (Age: 74)
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    retired gunsmith

    iver johnson & h&r firearms


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