Bert H.
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Bert H.

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    1. Bert H.
      Bert H.
      Hello XITMAN,

      Winchester used the 24-3/8" barrel for most if not all of the second variation production. Additionally, none of the second variation rifles should have proof marks. Winchester did not begin using the proof marks on the Model 1890 until 1908 (early into the third variation run).

      Bert
    2. XITMAN
      XITMAN
      I'm new here. Was wondering if you could help me with a fairly technical question regarding a Winchester model 1890 that I am considering to buy? I'll put it out here and you can tell me if you can or can't or maybe who can. This is a near 90% original case hardened second model ser. No. 29690. The bbl. is 24 3/8", which I assume was left over from the first model run. Question: since there are no proof marks on bbl. or receiver and the "22 short" inscription on the bbl. comes right up to the receiver where proof mark would usually be, is it feasible or common to have an early second model without any proof marks? Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Sincerely
    3. Bert H.
      Bert H.
      Hello Al,

      I do not have access to any of the post 1963 Model 94 serialization data, so I can not tell you when your Model 94 was manufactured. Based on the serial number, 1968 is very close to being correct.

      What I do know, is that production began at serial number 2,700,000 in January of 1964, and that the pre-1964 dates of manufacture are significantly different in reality than the information you will find on most internet websites and books.

      Bert
    4. brushhippie
      brushhippie
      Mr Bert, Hawg tells me you can tell me manufacture year of my model 94 serial number 3156533, I checked this through another site and he says their info is flawed they are saying it was manufactured in 68...is this true Sir? and thank you much for the help! Al Cummins
    5. Bert H.
      Bert H.
      Hello Ken,

      I assume that your SRC is actually a Model 1894 versus a Model 1892. What I can tell you, is that Model 1894 serial number 759723 was manufactured in April of 1915. It would be a stretch for it to have still been in use in the mid 1950s.

      Please send the pictures of it to me at Win1885@msn.com

      Bert
    6. UncleFudd
      UncleFudd
      Bert;
      It has been a long time since I last contacted you and that was on another forum and I can't remember the name of it but it had to do with the date and history of two winchester rifles.
      I remember you telling me that you have been a historian for win and were in the process of recounting or restoring or even perhaps recovering history that had been lost or burned.

      Hope all is well with you and your loved ones after all this time.

      I have some questions again about another particular rifle, a mod 1892 SR carbine in 30WCF sn 759723.
      It is more than this though and a story to go with my questions.
      I believe this rifle was one that my dad used as a highway patrolman in Wy back in the 50s. He actually shot a murderer who was both attempting to run from him while shooting. Dad shot him through the cheek of his butt and then took him to jail where he and his friend were tried and convicted and sentenced to life in the Wy state pen in about 58 or early 59..
      In 59 I loaned this gun to a high school friend to hunt deer and he claimed to have had it stolen and replaced it with a new 94 30-30.
      Two years ago he called me and said he had found the gun and returned it to me sans the Saddle ring and the loading gate and it has been neglected. But I have cleaned it up very nicely and actually shot it and it is still a real tack driver.

      But it has some letters stamped into it that make me wonder about its origins and I had hoped if i could get some pics to you that you might be able to recognize them and help me understand where it has or had been even perhaps prior to my dad getting it for use on the patrol.

      I do not have the pics as yet but will get them as soon as possible if this is something you think you would help me with in a few days.

      Let me know if you will or if I should do this through one of the forums.

      Thanks and again I sincerely hope all is well..

      Ken Woodward

      UncleFudd 480 818-3441
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    Birthday:
    Aug 12, 1960 (Age: 53)
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    Location:
    Washington State (Puget Sound Region)
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    Sr. Electronic Systems Engineer
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