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This is always interesting: Aberdeen Wapinschaw

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It promises to be another good set of competitions this year at the Aberdeen Wapinschaw. In the past it has been a combination of civilian and military shooters competing; in recent years the civilians have been competing seperately from the military. The competition attracts people from all over Scotland over two days.

The attached file has the courses of fire, including gallery rifle, .22 rifle, long barrel revolver, long barrel pistol, black powder revolver, muzzle loading rifle and black powder cartridge rifle. The full bore rifle part of the competition is planned for September. The muzzle loading rifle and black powder cartridge rifle competitions will be over the 100 yard range; everything else will be between 50 and 10 yards.

It has been an annual competition since 1862, with Kings and Queens presenting trophies during its early years. Although this website was set up a few years ago, it has more historic information...http://wapinschaw.co.uk/history.htm .
 

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I'll go for some of the gallery rifle and .22 competitions; have a go at black powder revolver and a friend lets me shoot his m/l rifle. I won the m/l rifle comp. two years ago, missed it by 1 shot last year. See what I can do this year. I usually make everyone else look pretty good in the gallery and .22 comps; but it's fun to shoot in the competitions. I generally take pictures for the club newsletter and help with the scoring/statistics and the timer.

Sometimes we have new members who don't have rifles yet so we let them shoot ours so they can be in the competition. It's great to see the smiles on their faces afterward.
 
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Sounds like fun! I've never tried shooting in a competition, but I'm thinking about trying the 500 meter silhouette event at one of our local ranges. ( http://www.mohavesportsmanclub.com/500 Yard Steel.html ) I'll wait until it cools off some, though; there's no shade on that 1000 yard range.
 
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Rawright, it looks like it ought to be fun. That's some complex.

We use the military range for the full bore competitions. Not sure what the course of fire will be this year, but normally it's at 200 and 300 yards; I think I heard someone talking about taking it back to 500 this year.
 
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It's quite impressive! I just wish I had more free time to use it. I've only just got my .30-06 sighted in at 200 yards, so I need to get out there and practice at the longer ranges. I note that they allow up to .30 cal, and no magnums. I'm hoping that a .30-06 isn't considered "magnum" because I think my .243 would be hard pressed to knock over a 50 lb target at 500 meters!
 
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.308 is a popular caliber; .30-06 is too "hot" for our ranges. I've tried my .223 at 300 yards but couldn't see where the rounds were going so gave it up. I can hit the target at 200 yards fairly well. We shoot steel plates (about 1 ft. square) at 200 yards. I can do that reasonably well.
 
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That's interesting, as I've always believed and been told that the .30-06 and .308 are nearly identical in performance, though the .308 is considered more efficient. To my engineer brain, "efficient" means maximizing the ratio of projectile energy leaving the barrel to grains of powder burned to accelerate said projectile to speed. What happens after the bullet leaves the barrel isn't the fault of the gun or the caliber.

I've never fired a .308, but I'm told that the recoil is less than that produced by a .30-06. That would tend to confirm the efficiency claims, as energy spent on recoil is not available for accelerating bullets. I don't get why one would be considered too 'hot' when they both perform about the same at the muzzle. When matters turn to firearms, logic and sense seem to be left at the door on both sides of the pond, don't they?;)
 
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The attached file has the courses of fire, including gallery rifle, .22 rifle, long barrel revolver, long barrel pistol, black powder revolver, muzzle loading rifle and black powder cartridge rifle.
I'd been under the impression pistols were completely banned in the UK. Please pardon my ignorance, but what make/model/caliber constitutes a long barrel revolver/pistol?
 
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A picture is worth a thousand words...
Product Gun Brown Firearm Trigger
Gun Firearm White Line Trigger

Browning Buckmark or 1911 in .22;

Line Metal Iron Bicycle part Household hardware


Taurus LBR in.22, .38/.357 or .44

All are hardly suitable for carry of any kind.

There is a movement afoot to try to re-legalise .22 pistols in England and Wales.

With special dispensation and strict rules to follow some people can get regular pistols and revolvers as humane killers, but that's the exception, not the rule.

According to the rules over here unless I have a LBR on my fire arms certificate I can't handle or shoot one. Unless I have a LPB same rules apply. If I have a LBR on my certificate I can't handle or shoot a LBP and vice versa. If I get one on my FAC then I can try one out.

Anyone allowed to shoot can try out a black powder revolver. Remington 1858 NMA is popular over here.
 
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I'll have to get more definitive info, but it has to do with muzzle energy, and .308 falls within the limits for both our range and the MOD range we use, while .30-06 is too great. Someone else with more knowledge would be able to explain it.
 
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The results are in. It was a great couple of days; I entered a number of competitions, and as I said before, I made a lot of other people look good, but for me the main point was to have fun taking part, and to spend time making new friends and renewing old friendships with members from other clubs. I also took pictures, helped score targets, helped with the statistics

One of the neat things was to see an entire family participating...on Fathers' day!!

The results are here.

A few pictures here...
Black powder ML and Cartridge 100 yards; black powder revolver; long barrel pistol and revolver

Iron Gas Shooting Shotgun Shooting sport
Shooting Plain Grassland Ecoregion Atmospheric phenomenon
Recreation Grassland Outdoor recreation Shooting Shotgun


Scoring targets; .22 and gallery rifle; mostly from25 yards and some practices from 15 and 10 yards.
Cap Box Hat Soil Job
Grassland Shooting Shooting sport Gallery rifle shooting Crew
Shooting Sport venue Gun Recreation Firearm
 
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I was taking most of the pictures, but someone else took the black powder revolver picture; I'm on the far end of the line.

The middle shooter in the long barrel pistol picture is shooting a .22 long barrel 1911.
 
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