I have an IJ, Third Model .38 S&W ( Owl head facing the shooters wrist ) Nickle plated revolver. Serial # H24029. Can anyone tell me the year of manufacture and the source of this serial number information.
Interesting. I bought it a couple of years ago. It is in overall excellent condition due to the fact that the plating I would say is 99% still intact, grips have little wear and the cylinder locks up tight.
It came with a Hunter brand leather holster, and one box of Remington ammo. I have fired it a couple of cylinders through it and works fine. I paid $200.00 for it, and feel like I got a good deal. No intentions of using it as a defensive weapon, just thought it was a cool little weapon due to liking the break open style revolvers.
My friend has an Iver Johnson .32 five shot top break with serial number 34964 found only on the bottom of the trigger guard. At some point the gun was chrome plated and there is no serial # visible on the barrel top. The owl faces the shooter and the gun has the automatic shell ejector. On the butt there is a patent date of November 17, ... (can no longer make out the year). Any help in determining the year of manufacture would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Xerxes
My friend has an Iver Johnson .32 five shot top break with serial number 34964 found only on the bottom of the trigger guard. At some point the gun was chrome plated and there is no serial # visible on the barrel top. The owl faces the shooter and the gun has the automatic shell ejector. On the butt there is a patent date of November 17, ... (can no longer make out the year). Any help in determining the year of manufacture would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Xerxes
I have a 'silver' Iver Johnson .32 caliber, top break with auto eject, removable cylinder and with a hammer. I would like to know the year and the model # is someone has this information. The serial number is 89317 which is found UNDER the trigger, stamped on the housing below the trigger. I believe it is considered a 'small frame'. Surprisingly it is in very good shape and a gunsmith rated it at 85-90 so I am anxious to get additional information about it in the hope of selling it. Any help is appreciated! Thank you.
I have a 'silver' Iver Johnson .32 caliber, top break with auto eject, removable cylinder and with a hammer. I would like to know the year and the model # is someone has this information. The serial number is 89317 which is found UNDER the trigger, stamped on the housing below the trigger. I believe it is considered a 'small frame'. Surprisingly it is in very good shape and a gunsmith rated it at 85-90 so I am anxious to get additional information about it in the hope of selling it. Any help is appreciated! Thank you.
Big Sigh!!!, I really don't want to sound snarly, but guy, did you even read the post right above yours? the one from hrf, I know you didn't read the one in the introduction to the forum in reference to Iver Johnson's serial number. The true serial number will be under the left grip, if there is a Letter Prefix, it will be there, and if there is one, it is crucial for the identification. The trigger guards seem to be soft metal and are prone to bend and break. Many times they are repaired by being replace from a part from another gun. Also Iver Johnson placed any prefix under the grip. If there's no prefix under the left grip we need to know that also. That is just for the year made. to determine the model we need, word for word the markings on the top of the barrel and butt ( if any ). Clear pictures would be even better. Over the course of their manufacturing lifetime Iver Johnson made several million firearms, at one time they were the second largest firearm manufacturer in the US. To help you, need to help us with the proper information. Sigh.
Shame on me!! I was so excited to find this forum that I completely forgot to read all the required information.......my sincere apologies, but I am a newbee and hopefully can use that as an excuse this 1 time
My Iver Johnson has a serial number that is......A89317.
Shame on me!! I was so excited to find this forum that I completely forgot to read all the required information.......my sincere apologies, but I am a newbee and hopefully can use that as an excuse this 1 time
My Iver Johnson has a serial number that is......A89317.
It is a coil mainspring.......check out the photos I have included. If you could give me the date and model # that would be great and would be appreciated. Thank you in advance!! I will be selling this pistol and if you have any ideas of the value that would be great too.....thanks again,
It is a coil mainspring.......check out the photos I have included. If you could give me the date and model # that would be great and would be appreciated. Thank you in advance!! I will be selling this pistol and if you have any ideas of the value that would be great too.....thanks again,
Thank you so much for this quick information. I had NO idea that it was this old, but it did belong to my grandfather. Much appreciated, and will use your price information as a guide when I offer it for sale. Thanks again,
I have now decided to sell the Iver Johnson (s/n A 89317), Model 3, Circa 1913.......does anyone have any idea where I can start? This pistol is in great shape, and recently rated by a gunsmith at about 85%. Slight wear at grip (in photo) but otherwise in good shape. thanks, any help would be appreciated!!
Once you make 15 posts, you can sell it here in our Buy/Sell/Trade forum. Do not attempt to sell it in any other thread or this thread, because you will quickly become a "former member".
Did I read somewhere that this model 3 Iver Johnson pistol was used in an attempt to shoot one of our U.S. Presidents back in the early 1900's? Would appreciate any info......thanks,
Leon Czolgsz shot President McKinley twice with a .32 caliber, Iver Johnson Safety Automatic, 6 September 1901. To be honest, the bullets didn't kill the President, his doctors did, the same as with Garfield. In regards to selling your revolver, it appears to have been refinished at least once, I don't think the value would exceed 150.00. Your gun but it is one of those things that it really wouldn't bring in that much money.
Thanks for the history lesson.........I thought I read somewhere that an Iver Johnson was used to shoot a president. I have NO idea if the revolver was refinished......I would doubt it based on when and who I received it from and the gunsmith that looked at it did not think so either, but you never know. He thought it looked great for a 100 year old pistol. Truthfully $150 would be a good fair price in my estimation. Thanks again for the history lesson........much appreciated!
I appreciate any help anyone can provide. I have an Iver Johnson with double top post, wheel does not spin freely. I presume it is a Third Model SA based on those characteristics. Also, the butt of the gun is stamped "Nov. 17, 08", which has been stated to be the 1909-1941 model range of 32 top breaks. The serial number is G67170. I am only looking for a year or range, no worried about value. Thank you in advance.
Hello all
I have an IJ Safety Automatic chambered for .38 S&W second model but date unknown. serial# C 34148 would love to know the date of manufacture
Hello all
I have an IJ Safety Automatic chambered for .38 S&W second model but date unknown. serial# C 34148 would love to know the date of manufacture.
Hi, I have a Iver Johnson SN of L1862 and it is a supershot 22 Sealed 8 Top Break. I wasn't sure if the SN is the year it was made or not? I am not interested in value, and it is priceless to me and would never sell it, but wondering how old it is. I appreciate if you could help!
I have this Iver Johnson 32 S&W (standard) five shot top break, revolver that I inherited from my Grandmother 40 years ago. I have done some research and have gotten conflicting information. The coil hammer spring and cylinder notches are suposed to indicate a smokeless powder model. But I have also been told that the serial numbers on the Smokeless models have the letter "N" prefix to the number.
The serial number on this revolver has no letter prefix but does have the coil spring and the later model cylinder notches. The serial # is 98XXX. The serial number appears on the frame under the left grip and on the bottom of the trigger guard. Also, on the bottom of the grip frame, as best I can read it, are two lines of print. Top line reads "PAT. NOV 17 08" There could be a coma between the 17 and the 08. The line below that reads "PATS PENDING". The only other stamps (rollings?) are on the top of the barrel consisting of the company name and the address.
I would like to know when it was manufactured as in my state handguns manufactured before 1898 are not, under permit laws, treated as are more "modern" handguns. I am going to guess that if that is a patent date of NOV 17, xx08, it is not likely it was manufactured before the turn of the 20th century...unless that is an 1808 date. ;-D
The only 3rd model serials without letter prefix are special order guns, but they are smaller numbers and I see no special order features on your gun. Without a prefix, it can only be dated 1909-1926.
(Later production did not reach 98000 any year)
Well, thank you. It may not be possible to definitively place its year of manufacture, but that is enough information for me to know that it doesn't qualify as an antique non-firearm under CA law.
Thought you might be interested in a little back story of this gun. My Grandmother grew up on the remnants of a cotton plantation in Virgina during the years after the Civil War. She was smart with a good education for a woman in that day and age and ended up going to work for and later managing the floor sales department for Talhimers (sp?) Department store in Richmond VA.
She lived on the plantation and commuted for several years until she married then moved into a row house in Richmond. She bought the gun herself and carried it religiously for self protection, during her streetcar commutes, which she said was common for most working women in that day.
She also told me about standing on the back porch of the plantation house and target practicing at an old shirt tacked to the wall of the barn...about 40 yards from the house. She said she couldn't hit the target very well by just holding the gun up, looking over the sights and carefully pulling the trigger. She said she hit the target best when she shot like the cowboys in the movies, holding the gun pointed up then snapping it down towards the target while pulling the trigger. Sort of "throwing" the bullets at the target. As a young kid I was watching Roy Rogers and Hop-a-long Cassidy shows on the early television, so her description of how she shot well seemed right to me.
The gun had seen a LOT of use with much wear on the mechanism when I got it. Its lock up is sloppy with a cylinder gap that could be measured with a ruler. But, with light loads, soft lead round-nose bullets and an oversize force cone (wear?) it will put 5 cocked shots on a 9" paper plate at 30 feet. And I love the ahead of its time hammer transfer bar mechanism. Haven't put more than 10 shots through it in the last 25 years, but I enjoy showing the unique break action to my pistol class students.
I got a iver johnson b28656 that my dad gave me which was my grandfather's . Wondering what model it is what caliber and what year it was made?
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