Hi all.
I'm new to the forum so I hope I am in the right place.
Could do with some help identifying this little gem. I have found some information about the proof marks - I believe it to be Belgian 1852 onwards which would be about right for date. The gun was given to my Father by an uncle who would have served in the first and second world wars. First world war and Belgium would seem a plausible reason for him to have picked this up but I'm afraid I have no further information and my Father is unable to remember anything from the time he was given the gun.
Look forward to unravelling the history and possible value?
Thanks, Andyh.
It's Belgian, and made at least a couple decades later than 1850s.
Look on rear cylinder face for the Liege ELG in oval proofmark.
If there's a crown on top of the oval, made after 1892.
Any marks on the side not shown?
The fact that the spurless hammer is grooved on top implies it should be single action also.
Thanks for the replies.
It is not too clear but I think it does have the markings on the cylinder you mention, hrf. There are no markings on the other side but there is a three figure number stamped just below the cylinder as you have probably seen - I guess this may just be a maufacturers' number? The hammer will not cock back manually which is in line with the double action.
Very Interesting! I have never seen that grip before. While not worth a lot of money the unique grip may add extra to the price. There is not a strong collector market for this type of gun but the unique grip puts it in a different class of concealable pocket pistol. These are collected by a lot more people. I too agree that it should be single action as well as possibly double action.
It resembles a Belgium made " handicap " gun, designed for someone who are unable to obtain a proper grip. Like hrt, I would date it with in throwing distance of the turn of the 19th centruy
I have tried cocking the hammer back but didn't want to force it further than felt comfortable. It is possible that it is broken, however the action is fine when using the trigger. The hammer comes back smoothly and cylinder rotates to next position all as expected.
I'll see if I can get it to cock back again and get an image of the fire pin and the markings on the back of the cylinder. Won't be til tomorrow now though, Dad's had the gun back and gone home!
This is similar to a "British Bulldog," of Belgium origin that I have, which is hammerless in the sense that the spur has been removed, making the hammer a simple striker. As you cock it by pulling the trigger, you can grip the spurless hammer and pull it and it will lock into the full-cock position. Essentially, it is a regular double action revolver that has been altered. I suspect what you have is the same, a double-action revolver with the hammer trimmed and a special butt fashioned to make it a rather formidable pocket revolver for its time, circa 1890, give or take 10 years. Very unusual and I suspect quite rare for a gun that would otherwise be a run-of-the-mill, obsolete revolver
I don't find any in current or past sales lists but they are so unusual that someone who has one probably keeps it.
Guns of this category with conventional grips are common and rarely bring more than $100-$150, but the Clic Clac is such a conversation piece it should bring more.
How about posting a photo showing it being held in firing position?
I don't quite follow the French website's description:
"Its strange handle --- ensures a good catch in hand. It is done between the inch and the index and presses on the palm."
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