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Want to try these powders....

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#1 ·
After studying my reloading manuals, I've identified a couple of new (to me) powders I'd like to try: Titegroup and Power Pistol--assuming I can find them. Basically what has caught my interest is faster powders capable of higher velocities.

How do these powders meter? Are they fair like Unique, good like Bullseye, or very good like W231. (I have not used W231 but I understand it meters excellent).
 
#2 ·
I use power pistol in my 9mm. I haven't chronographed them, nor fired many rounds (not in to pistol shooting much). It does meter extremely well for me. I think I've loaded 100 rounds total and my Lee powder measure threw the same weight every time. There is a lot of muzzle flash.
 
#4 ·
I've never seen any of the above but Bullseye on any shelf anywhere, nor online. Happily, Bullseye meters wonderfully well, else I'd be in a world of hurt...
 
#6 ·
I've had PP on my gotta-try list for a while now. Haven't been able to find it in stock locally though.
It looks like a nice 9x19 powder but I just can't get my hands on any.

Titegroup meters very nicely. It's a flattened ball powder (like 231) so it flows great.
It's pretty clean burning in the .45ACP and .380 loads I've done with it. I actually like it better than 231 for those two cartridges.
 
#7 ·
PowerPistol is a nice powder for 9mm but I wouldn't call it fast. It also is noisy and flashy.
It meters pretty well in my Hornady measure, comparable to Bullseye. (Same powder structure)

Vithavuori N320 is a good alternative if you can get your hands on it, or AA #2
 
#8 ·
I use TG in both my 40 & 45. It's excellent and meters perfectly in my 550b. As noted by many, it takes little powder, so be extra careful not to allow a double charge. Just use established protacals and check visually after each powder drop in the case and you'll be just fine. FYI just started tring it my 357 and so far looks very promising.
 
#9 ·
I use Titegroup for my 9mm. Drops thru the powder measure like a dream, plus for the 9mm load I use I can get over 1500 rounds out of a pound of it. Seems accurate to me and not dirty. Murphy's Law was right on double ck'ing cases as Titegroup doesn't take up much room in the case. A double charge is a BAD thing.
 
#12 ·

Titegroup - 90 XTP for 380 Auto (LCP)
PowerPistol - 155 XTP for 40 S&W (XD subcompact)


My goal is to produce effective SD rounds for the two guns and bullets I've listed above. (proper expansion and penetration). Both pistols are short barrels.

Up to this point all my handgun loading has been target/plinking rounds. I have a whole slew of XTPs in various calibers that I want to load for backup SD rounds.
 
#15 ·
I use Titegroup in .380, 38 Special, .357 Mag, 9mm, 9X18 Makarov, .40, .45 Colt, and .45ACP. In other words, I use it in every pistol cartridge I load. It is one of the best and easiest to meter powders I have ever used. I have never used the Power Pistol so I can't say anything about it but I will guarantee you will like Titegroup.
 
#17 ·
Thanks guys for all your feedback. It was very helpful and appreciated as always. I currently have 5 different pistol powders I'm using for 6 different calibers. I plan to test those as well as some new ones for my SD/XTP bullets. Titegroup certainly sounds like a favored powder so I'm adding it to my watch list.

I guess its time to pick up a chrono. I've done zero research. What are some of the features I should look for?
 
#18 ·
I'll add it my watch list in Show Low as well! I sent you some shots of my chrono outing yesterday, the Competition Electronics ProChrono Digital Chronograph is what I have and used for the first time yesterday. On a bright sunny day the display was easily read from 10' away and all the data was retained in the unit for easy retrieval at home last night. Miday sells it for $99 but puts it on sale now and then for the mid $80's
 
#19 ·
TiteGroup has never performed well enough for me to want to buy more. It also burns very hot, and often doesn't play nice with lead or coated bullets. Unless my results are quite different from others, most folks who talk about accuracy with TG are happy with 3-4" groups at 25 yards.
The following is based on accuracy at 25 and 50 yards and not on action pistol needs:
Power Pistol, which I haven't seen in about 2 years, has been the best powder for 9x19 and almost as good as Silhouette for 9x21, where I am looking for groups <2.0" at 25 yards.
For .40, if you want accuracy and light to mid-range loads, AA5 is by far the best. For normal .40, I can't beat Silhouette.
For .45 Auto, the most accurate powder I have found is 231/HP38. Almost all Bullseye shooters use Bullseye, so it must be about the best in most guns. Next would be AA2 and Solo 1000.
For .38 Special, it would be 231/HP38, Bullseye, or Unique.
For .357 Mag, it would be Unique or 2400 (N110, H110/296 will give highest accuracy, but not best accuracy in my guns)
 
#20 ·
Thanks noylj,

Here are my current pistol powders and their use based on what I've been able find:

380 Auto - Bullseye
9mm - Bullseye
38 Special - Bullseye/Unique
357 - AA #7
40 S&W - AA #5
45 ACP - SR-4756 (when I'm out of this I hope to have W231)

I'm shooting mostly FMJ and some lead in 38 spcl and 357.

Pistol powders on my watch list that I'd like to try:
CFE Pistol
Titegroup
Power Pistol
 
#22 ·
I like Power Pistol. I find it just a bit slower than Unique; so it works well for high performance loads in both .38 and .44 Special calibers. This powder gives good velocity with standard level peak pressures. It also has use in .45 ACP full power loads. Shows promise in .32 ACP; which may indicate other smaller capacity rounds may respond well in addition.

I use it in a Dillon progressive and it serves well and meters uniformly in the Dillon powder measures.

I have no experience with Tite Group.
 
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