I'm confused after I saw the video interview of police officer Darron Wilson talk about the Furgeson shooting of Mike Brown.
Wilson said he was sitting in the police car and was fighting with Brown. When Brown went for his gun, he fought him off and pulled the gun on Brown. Then he said Brown put his hand on the gun and it refused to fire twice. I think he said it went click - not bang twice.
How is that possible?
I assume he was carrying a semi-automatic plastic pistol - like, or similar to a Glock 22 - the standard police pistol for the vast majority of police forces in the USA.
If a round was chambered in the "pipe" would it fail to fire if a person held the slide of the gun? Somehow, this does not sound correct. I assume this could happen if the gun was a revolver and Brown held the exposed hammer, which I doubt, but this could not happen with a semi-auto pistol; right?
Officer Wilsons' duty firearm was a Sig Sauer P229 in the 9mm variety.
I heard the same thing and have been trying to figure it out. Thug holding the gun presumably over/on top of the slide. I can see the inital shot fireing but not being able to cycle for the second.
Whats wrong here is, his freekin lawyer. Knowing that pos holder is gonna come after him, he should have told him to talk to no one until the feds were through with him. People screw up when talking at length ( or typing ). One misstatement can mean a lot when folks try to use it against you. How many times has a post, poorly typed, led to an ongoing confrontation here?
Depends on how he was holding it. If in the process of grabbing it, he moved the slide back enough, then no bang and regardless of the trigger releases, if back far enough, it is once again cocked. Some might simulate with empty gun by placing the tang in the webbing with the fingers above the slide and squeeze a bit. Some might simulate this unsuccessfully and blow a hole in the wall! You will find your slide cocking spot. Each brand has their own spot. I'll have to find a P229 and see the distance and how it compares to my Beretta. The question is, was that by accident he grabbed the gun that way, or was it street smarts?
I agree with drymag
I think Brown had hold of the slide and had the gun slightly out if battery[/QUOTE The Sig P226 is a SA/DA action . If the slide is slightly out of battery the trigger will still cock & release the hammer. Striker fired actions, like Glock, must have the slide retracted to reseat the trigger.
Wilson's explanation in the interview is compelling and I tend to think the shooting was justified. \
OK, but if Brown held the slide so the gun was no longer in battery the gun would go click - NOT bang once. ....but how could the gun go click NOT bang twice? ....from what I know about auto guns, this is not possible.
Wilson's explanation in the interview is compelling and I tend to think the shooting was justified. \
OK, but if Brown held the slide so the gun was no longer in battery the gun would go click - NOT bang once. ....but how could the gun go click NOT bang twice? ....from what I know about auto guns, this is not possible.
Possible Wilson thought he pulled the trigger twice and assumed it clicked twice. He was in a potentially high anxiety state where he recalls the big details but the jerking, tugging of the gun made him think it clicked twice when it was really a pull twice. Who knows. I wouldn't hold Wilson's feet to the fire while he was sitting sideways in the vehicle to a big thug with all the leverage on his side while fighting for his life.
As usual, Drymag and Dbcooper hit the nail on the head. A 1911, a Sig, an H&K, just about any semi-automatic pistol won't shoot if it is out of battery. Don't try that with a revolver!
Decocker gun. Slide slightly out of battery as others have mentioned, or another
possibility is that the "over the top" grip Brown had on it was depressing the
decocker lever. Hammer will cycle when the trigger is pulled, but it will only
drop to the decocked position--not all the way down to fire. Third possibility
is that the grip brown had on the gun was blocking the hammer, preventing it
from hitting the firing pin with enough force to fire. We will probably never know.
Glad someone posted yankee's video I was about to reference that myself
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