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#1 ·
I recently bought a Japanese Arisaka type 99 for $250 and a receiver for $40 additional dollars. The receiver however has an unmolested chrysanthemum on it. I'm curious if it would be worth having the receiver mounted on the gun instead of the reciever that's on it. Attempt to buy the parts to build another type 99 or just sell rieciever for what it isn't? If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated!
 
#2 ·
I'd say you have a jewel in that receiver ! At some point McArthur or someone agreed all war trophies would have the chrysanthemum defaced. Might be worthwhile to rebuild your rifle with the intact receiver. You need input from someone far more knowledgable in militaria than I for this. >MW
 
#4 ·
IMO no. And I am a former Arisaka collector. Arisaka values are based on ORIGINAL condition. And one of the most important of these conditions is if the serial numbers on all parts match. Especially the bolt and the receiver. A receiver with an intact MUM, but with mismatched bolt has less value than one w/ground MUM and matching bolt. So unless the 3 digits on the bolt handle matches the last 3 on the serial on the left side of the Mumed receiver, You'd be wasting your $.
 
#7 ·
I seriously doubt that the receiver is worth much. But you might be able to sell it. The thing is that all the other matching parts to it are gone. And by itself, it's just one piece of a puzzle that's worth little unless complete. Put it up for auction w/no reserve and see what it brings IMO. And then focus on the complete rifle you have. Lets see it and determine what it is and how much it's worth.
 
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#13 ·
a reciever with a mum MIGHT be worth a lil money to a guy wanting to build a custom gun, and not wanting to cut down a complete gun.

as deadin said. I have ALSO heard that arisaka are a PITA to rebarrell. though it is possible. I have seen a couple parts gun turned into literal sproter fine artwork by a guy on another forum.
 
#16 ·
The GOOD news is you appear to have a matching bolt. That makes your T-99 the 2nd most desirable condition. (Matching w/MUM is 1st). Korkura Arsenal. Can't see the series mark well enough to ID. Is the stock uncut? What do the action screws look like? Buggered up or clean? Pic of entire rifle?
 
#18 ·
arisaka are a PITA to rebarrel
A 'smith I used to know that specialized (in the 1950's) in making Arisaka sporters would take a relieving cut around the barrel just ahead of the receiver. He said that it eased off a little of the pressure and made it easier to pull the old barrel.

(He also figured that the Japanese used Sumo wrestlers to torque the barrels on...:D)
 
#19 ·
making Arisaka sporters would take a relieving cut around the barrel just ahead of the receiver. He said that it eased off a little of the pressure and made it easier to pull the old barrel.
I recall seeing that done on a couple of US M1917s back in the '60s. They were being rebarreled to one caliber or another, and removing the original barrel was a real bear without the relief cut about 1/16" ahead of the receiver face.
 
#20 · (Edited)
Regardless of how it is done, it would be STUPID to do it to that matching rifle. Not only would it cost you $ to do it, but DESTROY the guns value. That's apparently a matching numbers rifle. And if the staked action screws haven't been deformed, that indicates it's never been taken apart since it left the arsenal. Both desirable features.
Just because the MUM is ground doesn't reduce the rifles value significantly. MUMed & Matching is most desirable. 2nd most is ground & matching. Mumed and mismatched has no more value than ground and mismatched. Matching numbers is the MOST IMPORTANT factor to collectability.
LEAVE THAT RIFLE ALONE. Don't take it apart, don't refinish it, don't do ANYTHING to it beyond bolt removal and BASIC cleaning & oiling. PRESERVE IT AS IS!
Also be aware that you CAN NOT "DECOCK" an Arisaka in the manner that you can most bolt action rifle. If you open the bolt and cock it, it MUST be dry fired. To attempt to decock may cause it to lock up.
If you want to BUILD a rifle out of the spare receiver, the good news is that Arisaka receivers (as long as not "last ditch") are very strong. And will handle most magnum calibers. You could build an Elephant gun out of that receiver.
But the complete rifle as far I can see and based on info given is a collector grade gun. DON'T mess with it.
 
#25 ·
Sorry, I sold my collection save just a couple prime examples, years ago. At one time I had 30 Arisaka's. As far as I know, there's no way to date a bayonet. Other than like the "Last Ditch' T-99's, some are obviously crude late war MFG. And they weren't matched to the rifles by Arsenal or any other method. Just random issue.
If you want to learn about Arisaka's, I suggest you join the Gunboards.com "Guns of the rising sun" forum. Many of the most respected collectors in the field are members there. And there are usually parts for sale as well.
 
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