Hello
Can someone explain the specifics of just what makes a firearm a C&R..What regulations must be adherred to for purchase and any other pertinant info a purchaser must be aware of. I own 2 M1 Garands and hopefully they supposedly fit the criteria..Any help and info please/
Thanks
Basically, guns built 50 yes prior to today's date, but not new replica of 50+ year old guns
Gums certified by certain museums to be car/historacle significance, etc
Guns that while less than 50ys old have some special significance and that their value is based on other than physical value, ie special commemorative or rare collector items, etc.
Also be sure to check out the BATF FAQ's about just how close iy has to be to retain its C&R status.
(i.e. A sporterized Mosin with a chopped barrel, bent bolt and duded up in a fiberglass stock is NOT a C&R.
One more bit of info that no one has touched on but I have encountered many times. Not all dealers will accept your C&R license. I have been to many who don't seem to know anything about them and many who don't want to know. They have been intimidated by all the ATF rules and regs and will not risk it. I spent two hours at a pawn shop once trying to prove to them that my C&R was legit. We went on the website and I finally got them on the phone. The dealer was so nervous about the transaction, I thought he was going to have a heart attack. Another store I went to knew exactly what a C&R is but would not accept it, no reason given.
The problem is that a lot of dealers and pawn shops buy and sell a lot of new guns but don't know anything about the collectibles. If a C&R firearm is changed in any way such as a target sights or stock then it does not comply. You can buy an original rifle but not just the receiver with a C&R licence. So, if you don't know what the original was, you are risking breaking the law.
and with google a tap away on your phone, you can see hundreds of thousands of pics of the gun in question to see if its a bbld rcvr or a gun in its military stock.
the ' not knowing' is a straw man really.. It more or less means too lazy to do your job. If my job is buying and selling guns.. I should, as a dealer, know a little bit about the hardware I make my livelihood from.
I restore antique tractors, have for 20+ years, you don't think I biy them blindly knowing Zippo about the make/model in going after, do ya?
Making a mistake on a tractor buy won't cost you your business license. I don't think it is right but right and wrong and legal and illegal are different matters. I know dealers in the business for 30+ years that won't accept a firearm in the mail from a private individual. They only accept through another FFL Rifles can be rebarreled, have trigger work, drilled and tapped for scopes, etc. I am not a lawyer but I believe any alteration to the original disqualifies it as a C&R. For many their business doesn't depend on the risk. I am sure if the C&R is a rare find then they would know what it looks like but I am not talking about the one of a kind rifles. Most of the C&R's are under $200 and just not worth risking your lively hood over.
Ok, I tried to show you that you should do research before buying. I related the tractor story. IE.. tractors, legally, are less hassle than guns.. yet I put a ton of time into tractors, .. if guns are legally more important.. look at the time needed for that research...
No problem, I'll ignore your posts from now on and you won't have to worry about not liking my comparison posts.
I let my C&R license expire in 2010 because of the refusal of so many FFL'S to accept my license. A C&R license is just as legal as a dealers FFL license. Totally ridiculous for it not to be accepted.
I've only had my C&R for about a year now but I've bought 3 rifles (soon to add one pistol and one rifle) with it on *********. Had zero issues with sellers accepting it and they're usually pretty accepting of not seeing original copies (i.e., sending the original with my payment so they can see the original signature). I don't like dealing with my local gun stores since they either have only brand new guns or just poor customer service (big box stores).
I have escaped California and made it to Idaho and I did keep my C + R. I can now order C + R's without going through an FFL, Correct?
I am enjoying the new found freedoms here.
Thanks
Yes, as long as you get a copy of his C&R license and ONLY ship it to the address on that C&R.
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