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California new Assault Weapons Law

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#1 ·
It seems the CA uber-liberal Progressive Democratic legislature has decided guns are bad. Their latest law closes a loop hole in the existing Assault Weapons (AW) law—the Bullet Button.

Removable magazines make a gun an AW in CA so a magazine release that requires a tool to remove the magazine got around that. The courts deemed a bullet in a cartridge as a tool, hence the name “Bullet Button”. This has worked until the new law that expressly outlaws the Bullet Button. The gun must now be dis-assembled to remove the magazine. So for an AR type gun a new mag release was designed that does not allow the magazine to drop until the rear receiver pin is pulled and the upper tilted forward. It is a button with an arm that reaches up to the upper to touch the side of the upper. When the upper is tilted forward, the arm is free of the upper and the magazine release operates normally.

There are two device now on the market for AR type guns: The Patriot from Bullet Button and the MagLock. The former works on all AR type lowers and the latter will not work on guns with a ambidextrous bolt catch lever as, on some guns, it is located where the MagLock arm wants to be.

I installed one of each on two AR-15’s. I installed the Patriot on a S&W M&P (308) because it has an ambidextrous bolt catch lever. I am told the the Patriot works on most AR-10’s as well.

Now, I am left to figure out how to de-mag several other semi-auto center fire rifles. It is not clear how far this new change to the AW law goes (??). Does it include the M1A, Ruger Mini-14 Series rifles, or 22LR semi auto’s. No regulations have been published yet. The CA Attorney General is very anti-gun and a political hack with a look for elevation in politics. She could force the regulations to be more than the law prescribes.

LDBennett
 
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#2 ·
All the patriots need to leave Commieville and it sectioned off so the commies can self destruct.
 
#3 ·
I'd love to leave but.....family, age and other things keep me here. Now if my son moves out of state (his desire but after the two grandkids graduate high school some 4 years away) then I am gone too.

The Progressive Democrats have turned what was "Paradise" when I arrive in California in 1945 into a Flower-Child liberal haven with overcrowding, too many laws, and too much violence. And it will only get worse!

LDBennett
 
#6 ·
The original intent of the original law was to isolate guns as AW's if they had some certain features: semi-automatic. centerfire, protruding hand grip, removable magazine, bayonet lug, flash hider. We got to the point with the Bullet Button where the only features left were semi-auto and protruding hand grip. Guns like M1A, Mini-14 without protruding hand grip were exempt and could even have removable magazines. But the regulation are not out yet and the law is written in legal ease so who knows if all removable magazine guns are covered or not. Magazine with greater than 10 rounds are illegal to posses and have to be removed from the state or destroyed.

So to answer howlnmad ....it is not yet clear (??). If the new law includes all removable magazine guns then that is some bolt guns, some non-AW semi-autos, some lever guns, some pumps....
In the end they want all guns to go away. The San Bernardino mass killing is the impedes for about 6+ new guns laws including registration of all ammo sales and the requirement to buy a license buy ammo ($50 is the estimate) with no mail order ammo sales allowed.

LDBennett
 
#7 ·
:mad::mad::mad:
 
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What appears to be the plan (??) is a two year license to buy ammo for $50 and it has to be re-newed every two years. Also every ammo sale has to be recorded by the ammo sales licensed dealer who has to keep those records. Can't find any ammo in California? Too bad, you can NOT buy mail order ammo. All ammo has to be purchased through a California licensed ammo dealer.

This is not about revenue but about making gun ownership irrelevant when there will be no ammo. Eventually the government will stop all ammo sales, period. Its all part of the Liberal Progressive Democrats plan. "Those that gots the guns (ammo), gots the power."

LDBennett
 
#12 ·
I'm sorry LD but there MUST be massive non-compliance. YOUR fellow Statesmen and Woman must stand up and be heard. If not you ALL will live on your knees.

I just can't "like" any of your posts that describe the destruction of the Constitution, I'm sorry my friend. :(
 
#13 ·
there is also a group trying to suceed the Republic from the United States and has a very large following , mainly composed of libturds n druggies with all the Hollywierd types
. They want to be their OWN country ( latin Iibturdia ) a possible new name :p .. and it looks like us Northerners (for the state of Jefferson) are on the back burner cause they cant figure out how to get around some of the laws on the books ,, IE. water rights, mineral rights, and how to afford governing the new state ..... trying to decide what state to drag my ol' backside to :(
 
#14 ·
Not to worry, soon enough Commiefornia will be deprived of all federal funding, highly unlikely they will have the resources to reinforce all these laws, you might actually dig up those illegal magazines than, they will likely not have the resources to deal with the gangbangers they have been protecting in their sanctuary,
AHHHH absolutely disgusting, screw leaving the commies to self destruct, kick them out, what ever happened to all of those that were leaving the country?
By the time the next California election comes about, hopefully there wont be so many illegals overturning the elections.
 
#15 ·
It seems the CA uber-liberal Progressive Democratic legislature has decided guns are bad. Their latest law closes a loop hole in the existing Assault Weapons (AW) law-the Bullet Button.

Removable magazines make a gun an AW in CA so a magazine release that requires a tool to remove the magazine got around that. The courts deemed a bullet in a cartridge as a tool, hence the name "Bullet Button". This has worked until the new law that expressly outlaws the Bullet Button. The gun must now be dis-assembled to remove the magazine. So for an AR type gun a new mag release was designed that does not allow the magazine to drop until the rear receiver pin is pulled and the upper tilted forward. It is a button with an arm that reaches up to the upper to touch the side of the upper. When the upper is tilted forward, the arm is free of the upper and the magazine release operates normally.

There are two device now on the market for AR type guns: The Patriot from Bullet Button and the MagLock. The former works on all AR type lowers and the latter will not work on guns with a ambidextrous bolt catch lever as, on some guns, it is located where the MagLock arm wants to be.

I installed one of each on two AR-15's. I installed the Patriot on a S&W M&P (308) because it has an ambidextrous bolt catch lever. I am told the the Patriot works on most AR-10's as well.

Now, I am left to figure out how to de-mag several other semi-auto center fire rifles. It is not clear how far this new change to the AW law goes (??). Does it include the M1A, Ruger Mini-14 Series rifles, or 22LR semi auto's. No regulations have been published yet. The CA Attorney General is very anti-gun and a political hack with a look for elevation in politics. She could force the regulations to be more than the law prescribes.

LDBennett
I was at Ft Irwin for a while and then in the Antelope Valley. Been in and around Hesperia quite a bit.

We left 3 years ago for good and greatly appreciate the freedoms of Idaho. The natural beauty of many parts of CA are not worth the aggravation of the libtards agenda any longer.
 
#16 ·
The original intent of the original law was to isolate guns as AW's if they had some certain features: semi-automatic. centerfire, protruding hand grip, removable magazine, bayonet lug, flash hider. We got to the point with the Bullet Button where the only features left were semi-auto and protruding hand grip. Guns like M1A, Mini-14 without protruding hand grip were exempt and could even have removable magazines. But the regulation are not out yet and the law is written in legal ease so who knows if all removable magazine guns are covered or not. Magazine with greater than 10 rounds are illegal to posses and have to be removed from the state or destroyed.

So to answer howlnmad ....it is not yet clear (??). If the new law includes all removable magazine guns then that is some bolt guns, some non-AW semi-autos, some lever guns, some pumps....
In the end they want all guns to go away. The San Bernardino mass killing is the impedes for about 6+ new guns laws including registration of all ammo sales and the requirement to buy a license buy ammo ($50 is the estimate) with no mail order ammo sales allowed.

LDBennett
That excludes many premiere ammo sources like Buffalo Bore that has poor penetration of local markets but robust internet sales.
 
#17 ·
While succeeding from the union will not go far (remember the Civil War!) I think it better to break California in two: East and West. The border would go down the top of the Coast Range all the way to Mexico. The West would get the Liberal cities of San Francisco, Los Angeles, and San Diego. That would include all the dope dealing northern Californians. The East would get the rest of California where all the Conservatives live. This of course is not likely to happen. What might happen is an extension of Mexico to include California. In 50 years the population will be dominated by Hispanics who will have more in common with Mexico than the United States and would easily vote to move California to their real home, Mexico. I'll not suffer that as I'll be long gone.

LDBennett
 
#19 ·
What might happen is an extension of Mexico to include California. In 50 years the population will be dominated by Hispanics who will have more in common with Mexico than the United States and would easily vote to move California to their real home, Mexico. I'll not suffer that as I'll be long gone.

LDBennett
Then why don't all the illegals just stay in Mexico if they want it all to be like there? I don't understand it, all the illegals waving around the Mexican flag and all.
 
#21 ·
I've said this before split CA, isolate them libs and let them have their way, that wont last, they will screw it all up in a heartbeat and start crossing illegally into east California, and it keeps on, that wont work come to think of, there is only one way about it, run them out, they are destroying everything, hopefully trump will get his way, I don't care what the critics may say or how they will twist it, discriminating against foreign nationals that crossed illegally, live illegally, vote illegally, for crooked politicians that have no clue what this country is based on, list goes on, this is not racism, its called National Security, hope it starts being enforced under this new administration and Californians follow suit with the rest of the country and overrun all these unconstitutional politicians out of office.


Don't forget about New England, they have the same issues, seems the north east follows closely maybe not so much illegal immigrants.
 
#22 ·
WE need to look at the countries that the 'illegal' immigrants originate from and use that as a basis/blueprint for some our laws. I'm afraid most of my info on the subject comes from these forums and facebook. I read that Mexico, for example, has mandatory voter I D, non-citizens don't vote, they have a strong fence on their southern border to keep the illegals out. Their fence is to keep the people from going through Mexico and competing with Mexican workers in the U.S.!
 
#23 ·
In the end they want all guns to go away.

LDBennett
There's the crux of the matter.
The mental disease known as liberalism convinces these people that if they just make another law, the criminals will start paying attention to it and the other 1000 that came before it.
Their disease prevents them from comprehending that only law-abiding citizens follow laws and all they accomplish by creating a litany of news ones is turning law abiders into unintentional criminals.
 
#24 ·
I'm sorry to say that I think California is a lost cause. Too many 'good people' sat on their dufts and let the Liberals take over. Now the Liberals are far too entrenched to remove. Not trying to sound like a Doomsdayer - but there is only one way to retake California - and that would be UGLY.

It's kind of hip or snarky to just say "Give it back to Mexico". Mexico has been pushing for this for about 150 years - and it looks like they are retaking California merely by population. Heck - they are taking over places where Mexico has never had a historic presence like New England and the Southern States. They are even taking over in Missouri - an area settled by my ancestors back in the 1840s.
 
#25 ·
Those of us that live in California that are of a conservative nature are NOT responsible for the liberal take over of California. By its nature big cities draw those seeking freebies with mild weather, and illegal immigrants who migrate to sanctuary cities. All the liberalism in California comes from three coastal cities: San Francisco and adjacent cities, the greater Los angeles area, and the greater San Diego area. All the counties in central California away from the coast are conservative but their numbers do not match the sum total of all the coastal cities. In addition the education system in California has taken on the task of convincing every kid passing through its school system that liberalism is right and good, and conservatism is bad. They start in kindergarten and don't quit all the way through college. This is a remnant of the hippie years and the Vietnam War anti-war people (make love not war). The Federal government allowed illegal hispanic immigration to get out of hand so they are to blame as well (Hispanics are the largest group of residents of California, some legal, some illegal). We conservatives have been out numbered for several decades and it will only get worse. California is lost and it may better be served by giving it back to Mexico after the conservatives move out.

LDBennett
 
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