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norahc 03-06-2012 11:21 PM

Lottery winner on welfare
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...g-welfare.html
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The 24-year-old added that she is entitled to the welfare handout as she has two homes to run.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?!?!?:mad::mad::mad:

sctt77 03-07-2012 12:44 AM

Re: Lottery winner on welfare
 
ppl like that makes it hard for the ones that really need it

raven818 03-07-2012 05:47 PM

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Watched her on Fox a few minutes ago. She said she took a cash payout of 700k +, and after taxes, it was " half ". I donno for sure, but I think I could make do with 500k. In order to get food stamps in Fla, your income has to meet, or be below a set figure.

I'm bettin she's going to wind up regretting all this attention.

Capt Mac Turk 03-07-2012 06:46 PM

Gimmy a Break I cant beleave I just read this!
 
$1M lottery winner still happily uses food stamps


Amanda Clayton, a 24-year-old mother of two, won a $1 million jackpot last

fall, and chose to take the lump sum, which, after taxes, was about $500,000

She bought a new car and a new house.

Yet, she's still collecting $200 a month in food stamps.

Her excuse? Since the government didn't cut her off she kept taking it.

"I feel that it's OK because I have no income, and I have bills to pay.

I have two houses," Clayton told WDIV 4 in Detroit.

For the time being, her actions apparently aren't illegal.

Legislation is pending that would cut off lottery winners from the welfare system.

UNREAL !!!:mad:

cutter 03-07-2012 06:47 PM

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:banghead::tapfoot:Hope she has to repay all she has taken plus interest!! Parasite. Not much else too say because it doesn't do any good, just makes my blood pressure higher.

mjp28 03-07-2012 06:51 PM

Re: Gimmy a Break I cant beleave I just read this!
 
Yeah I saw that, you've got to be kidding -plus- her face in online now? Geezzz.

Selfish pig with people really hurting out there!

glens67 03-07-2012 06:56 PM

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Typical empowered b***k person, I'm surprized she did not mention reparations, and proir suffering.

norahc 03-07-2012 07:28 PM

Re: Gimmy a Break I cant beleave I just read this!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Mac Turk (Post 887272)
Her excuse? Since the government didn't cut her off she kept taking it.

"I feel that it's OK because I have no income, and I have bills to pay.

I have two houses," Clayton told WDIV 4 in Detroit.

For the time being, her actions apparently aren't illegal.

Legislation is pending that would cut off lottery winners from the welfare system.

Did she report the lottery winnings to the welfare agency as income, or did she fail to mention her windfall? That could become the crux of making her actions illegal.

Then again, we already know who she will be voting for in November.

musclehead 03-07-2012 07:35 PM

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this is the dream from his father Obama wants. he would nod approvingly if he knew.

part of the problem this nation faces is the extreme entitlement mentality of people like this. no pride, no sense of self worth, no need to pay her own way even if they can.

mjp28 03-07-2012 08:22 PM

Re: Gimmy a Break I cant beleave I just read this!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by norahc (Post 887306)
Did she report the lottery winnings to the welfare agency as income, or did she fail to mention her windfall? That could become the crux of making her actions illegal.

Then again, we already know who she will be voting for in November.

Lottery winnings have to be reported on your 1040 FED as gambling winnings, you will get a W-2G from the lottery.

Each state and their welfare programs can vary, she might be in the clear in MI, I don't know.

whymememe 03-07-2012 08:31 PM

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Lucky B****! She should give it all back, right?

armoredman 03-07-2012 10:06 PM

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They pass the law, they can stop it, but backdating isn't legal. Cut her off and make it public. Amazing, of course the thing is how many are abusing the system now with no lottery winnings, just welfare winnings? The amount of money wasted there far outstrips what this woman is milking.
I remember actual food stamps, guys would come in and buy a small item of $.50 or less,, pocket the change, walk out, come back in, buy another one, keep this up for a while, then rush in with all that change and buy a twelve pack of beer, and walk out snickering.

raven818 03-08-2012 05:54 PM

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They busted her yesterday ( on Fox this morning ). She facing charges, and has to pay back the funds she received since the wind-fall ( probably w/interest too ).

whymememe 03-08-2012 08:24 PM

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Hopefully she hasn't spent all of the windfall.

gun-nut 03-09-2012 07:23 AM

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24 years old and thinks the government need to give her food. She is not old enough yet to have paid her time to taxies! Good for them to bust her!

raven818 03-09-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gun-nut (Post 888063)
24 years old and thinks the government need to give her food. She is not old enough yet to have paid her time to taxies! Good for them to bust her!

Right now, they don't seem to be able to come up with any crime.

Fox news last nite...a bill ( two actually ) was written to mandate anyone, reaching a certain income, be taken off the food stamp list. But, those same folks forgot(?) to put the law in place.

Mind-boggling? Nah... :rolleyes: Normal? Yep..

jstgsn 03-09-2012 04:12 PM

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Kinda like our congressmen getting free haircuts. I gotta pay $8.00 and I'm still ugly.

Old Grump 03-09-2012 06:02 PM

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Michigan is going to make her payback all the money they sent her since last September when she got the money and may prosecute her for fraud.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/michi...6#.T1qZwXmV1Zc

whymememe 03-10-2012 10:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jstgsn (Post 888262)
Kinda like our congressmen getting free haircuts. I gotta pay $8.00 and I'm still ugly.

What, they got a congressional barber or something?

Brass Tacks 03-11-2012 12:57 PM

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and everyone watch, she'll be dead broke in less than two years and back on welfare

norahc 03-11-2012 01:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brass Tacks (Post 889322)
and everyone watch, she'll be dead broke in less than two years and back on welfare

Two years? More likely by the end of this month.:mad:

Ed~ 03-12-2012 12:26 AM

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Ya'll got that right. Wealth primarily is a state of mind. Those who grow up on the dole have the poverty mentality no matter how much is actually in the bank account (if there is one).

Case in point... Ms. Lottery Winner feeling like it was OK to draw financial support.

She has no understanding of where that money comes from... has no understanding of money PERIOD -much less how to go out and make it. To her money is something to spend when its there. That's it!

So of course she would choose to give up half her millions for a lump sum payout, so there would be some actual money to spend NOW. And of course she would buy this and buy that and continue to draw public money because it's all there to be used. And of course she will be back where she started before too long when it is all SPENT.

All goes back to the poor upbringing and education in the US. Kids don't learn nothing later if they aren't taught to value learning in the first instance.

Jerryboy 03-12-2012 12:35 AM

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Sorry, but I'm not familiar with how the lottery works. What would the payment plan have been if she hadn't taken the lump sum payment? If it'd been like ten bucks a month until she was paid up I could understand her taking the lump sum. And would she still have had to pay taxes on it?

Ed~ 03-12-2012 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerryboy (Post 889700)
Sorry, but I'm not familiar with how the lottery works. What would the payment plan have been if she hadn't taken the lump sum payment? If it'd been like ten bucks a month until she was paid up I could understand her taking the lump sum. And would she still have had to pay taxes on it?

According to what I read, if the lottery winner could have taken her $1 Million over a period of time -sometimes 28 years at $$38,500/year- she would have kept her entire payout minus Tax/year (at long term capital gains rate of 15%?).

But she chose the 1x lump sum payout at a reduced $700K, was taxed on that amount for $200K, and so left with half the original lottery winnings in hand, or $500K in the bank.

Given the state of the economy and the questionable long-term value of the Greenback, I'm not sure if that was the worst decision. However, I do not agree with her motives in principle given that I doubt her intentions were how best to invest the money to make it last, but likely to simply to spend the money frivolously to mask the pain in her life.

At any rate, she should have expected to give up her her food stamps, and probably did, but decided not to report her winnings to the State Agency in charge of that. But she still would have had a guaranteed yearly income of almost $32,700 after taxes if she were honest and literally did nothing else to make money throughout the year.

No not enough to hang out in Hawaii for her and her kids, but certainly frees one up to pursue a happier lifestyle than flippin' burgers 40 hours/week to scrape by.

Again, I am only criticizing her attitude about life, and not her life as a whole. I know that I wouldn't choose to flip burgers full-time given the choice.

But the short answer? -She probably would have gotten $2,700/month after taxes playing it straight.

What would you have done?

raven818 03-12-2012 04:58 PM

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It wasn't " social security checks " she gave up. It was food stamps/welfare:

Quote:

Amanda Clayton of Lincoln Park, Michigan still claims $200 a month in food stamps and despite paying cash for a new home and car said, 'I'm still struggling.'


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