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whymememe 06-08-2012 07:06 PM

The Native American is in the Fight
 
Here is a video tribute to wounded knee. I would not push the Red Man. We have so many enemies to think about now. Who do you think will he align with? We need them on our side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESYTw...8241270DE788F0

raven818 06-08-2012 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by whymememe (Post 936900)
Here is a video tribute to wounded knee. I would not push the Red Man. We have so many enemies to think about now. Who do you think will he align with? We need them on our side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESYTw...8241270DE788F0

The Navajo Indians played an important role in winning WWII. They used their language to set up a military code that was never broken by the enemy. Powerful stuff. Navajo Code Talkers.

http://tinyurl.com/mjsn8v

Lots of stuff on your link. Bookmarked for viewing. Thx.

whymememe 06-08-2012 08:24 PM

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I was visiting a Navaho medical clinic at Crown Point Indian reservation at four corners in 1993. I was interviewing for a job which I didn't accept because the housing accommodations were so bad, it was so far out in the boonies the nearest hotel was 50 miles away. I would have stayed but my wife was with me and she was a wussy.

Anyway, the Navaho housing supervisor introduced himself by his name which I don't recall, he followed it by U.S. Marine. Like U.S. Marine was his last name. I introduced myself back to him in the same manner except I put U.S. Army. These are a proud people and a national treasure. I believe they prefer to be away from the rest of America. It's like leaving an animal in it's natural habitate rather than a zoo. IMO

Bobitis 06-08-2012 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by whymememe (Post 936946)
These are a proud people and a national treasure. I believe they prefer to be away from the rest of America. It's like leaving an animal in it's natural habitate rather than a zoo. IMO

At one time I would agree with you. Today? Not so much. :(

Fwiw, my son is 1/8 Choctaw.

whymememe 06-08-2012 08:53 PM

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Bobitis, which sentence is it, that you disagree with. I'm just curious.

Bobitis 06-08-2012 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by whymememe (Post 936958)
Bobitis, which sentence is it, that you disagree with. I'm just curious.

"I believe they prefer to be away from the rest of America. It's like leaving an animal in it's natural habitate rather than a zoo. IMO"

I believe this statement may be true for a few. Very few.

whymememe 06-08-2012 09:39 PM

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So, you think they want to be intergrated with the white man?

raven818 06-08-2012 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by whymememe (Post 936990)
So, you think they want to be intergrated with the white man?

Integrated? They are integrated.

I guess the reason some may not know it is, they don't do war dances, beat their drums, wear feathers in their hair, tie their horses up in front of the 7-11's, scalp white-eyes, etc. I haven't seen a teepee since I left Utah.

whymememe 06-09-2012 12:16 AM

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Most of them live on reservations in substandard conditions.

Iron Eagle 06-09-2012 07:10 AM

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Why, you would be suprised as how many are everywhere, and like me, have never been on a reservation. True, some may prefer life that way, but from what I have heard, the poverty-drugs-and alcohol use is terrible.
Bobitis, you might not know this, but if you are Native American, that is what you are, regardless of percentage. I am Cherokee from both of my parents. The indian has been painted in a bad light for far too long. Just a thought- who would not be willing to give his life to protect his families life as well as his own? Does that make that man a savage? No. I am sure that everyone here would willingly do that. The history books do not accurately tell what happened. May I suggest reading Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee? It tells the truth of what happened. It was not written by a Native, but it was done by someone who learned the truth, and had the courage to tell it. BTW, I am a Christian, a patriot, and a veteran. I stand for Godliness in our government. Its a shame it isn't there right now.

whymememe 06-09-2012 02:12 PM

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I stand with you Iron Eagle. I might just see if I can get a place on the Reservation. I have medical skills and I can do things with my hands that most men can't.
I just cannot work with the white man.

whymememe 06-09-2012 02:19 PM

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The reservation, just might be the place to survive the coming anarchy. I wonder if they would allow me to purchase a parcel there.

Bobitis 06-09-2012 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Iron Eagle (Post 937105)
Why, you would be suprised as how many are everywhere, and like me, have never been on a reservation. True, some may prefer life that way, but from what I have heard, the poverty-drugs-and alcohol use is terrible.
Bobitis, you might not know this, but if you are Native American, that is what you are, regardless of percentage. I am Cherokee from both of my parents. The indian has been painted in a bad light for far too long. Just a thought- who would not be willing to give his life to protect his families life as well as his own? Does that make that man a savage? No. I am sure that everyone here would willingly do that. The history books do not accurately tell what happened. May I suggest reading Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee? It tells the truth of what happened. It was not written by a Native, but it was done by someone who learned the truth, and had the courage to tell it. BTW, I am a Christian, a patriot, and a veteran. I stand for Godliness in our government. Its a shame it isn't there right now.

My son gets his 'native' heritage from his mothers side. Mine is one from the 'evil' bastids side. I'm related to William Dawes. He rode with Paul Revere but never got near the attention. I'm sure you're familiar with the Dawes Rolls.

I'm surrounded by many native reservations so I see/read what they do on a daily basis. The native Americans are their own 'nations' according to law. They are soveriegn and not beholding to any state or federal regulations. With this in mind, the States and the fed keep feeding them with subsidies. There're far too many to go into here.

I know many that like to keep their heritage alive and I would gladly stand with them. I've seen far too many that couldn't care less and have no problem feeding off the system, and raping the earth and its resources because they can. :(

Much like slavery, I refuse to be accountable for the plight of the native American. Many I would fight with and respect (such as yourself). Far more would get the cold shoulder.

whymememe 06-09-2012 04:57 PM

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the Dawes Rolls i was not aware of. I will be looking into it. (They have no problem feeding off the system and raping the earth and its resources because they can.) The sentence is hard for me to understand. Is there a typographical error. It seems as if you are attributing traits of the white man to the native american.

The family portrait of my father's family, my grandmother and uncles and aunts is all the confirmation I need to satisfy me that I have Native American ancestry.

jedwil 06-09-2012 04:59 PM

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One of the finest soldiers I served with was SGT Wilbur Jack Smith., Native American from N. Washington. A true warrior I would have followed into Hell knowing he would get me back. I remember his dress uniform during inspections. He had more ribbons on his chest than all the battallion officer cadre combined. I was proud to call him a friend.

My own heritage may be Choctaw on my mother's side. Things are sketchy because she and her brother were dumped at a children's home as toddlers. Won't bore you with a long story, suffice it to say we think my mother's grandmother was Choctaw. Unsure of her grandfather.

whymememe 06-10-2012 10:08 PM

Re: The Native American is in the Fight
 
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Originally Posted by Bobitis (Post 937358)
My son gets his 'native' heritage from his mothers side. Mine is one from the 'evil' bastids side. I'm related to William Dawes. He rode with Paul Revere but never got near the attention. I'm sure you're familiar with the Dawes Rolls.

I'm surrounded by many native reservations so I see/read what they do on a daily basis. The native Americans are their own 'nations' according to law. They are soveriegn and not beholding to any state or federal regulations. With this in mind, the States and the fed keep feeding them with subsidies. There're far too many to go into here.

I know many that like to keep their heritage alive and I would gladly stand with them. I've seen far too many that couldn't care less and have no problem feeding off the system, and raping the earth and its resources because they can. :(
thanks for the tip about the Dawes Rolls. I found the website. My grandmother is listed on the rolls of The Civilized Cherokee Tribe, I might just find out who I am before I grow old and die. again, thank you
Much like slavery, I refuse to be accountable for the plight of the native American. Many I would fight with and respect (such as yourself). Far more would get the cold shoulder.


whymememe 06-10-2012 10:14 PM

Re: The Native American is in the Fight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobitis (Post 937358)
My son gets his 'native' heritage from his mothers side. Mine is one from the 'evil' bastids side. I'm related to William Dawes. He rode with Paul Revere but never got near the attention. I'm sure you're familiar with the Dawes Rolls.

I'm surrounded by many native reservations so I see/read what they do on a daily basis. The native Americans are their own 'nations' according to law. They are soveriegn and not beholding to any state or federal regulations. With this in mind, the States and the fed keep feeding them with subsidies. There're far too many to go into here.

I know many that like to keep their heritage alive and I would gladly stand with them. I've seen far too many that couldn't care less and have no problem feeding off the system, and raping the earth and its resources because they can. :(
Thanks for the tip about the Dawes rolls. I found the website and saw my Grandmother listed with the Civilized Cherokee Nation. I might find out who I am before I grow old and die. Again thanks.
Much like slavery, I refuse to be accountable for the plight of the native American. Many I would fight with and respect (such as yourself). Far more would get the cold shoulder.


whymememe 06-10-2012 10:22 PM

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Bobitis, thanks for the tip about the Dawes Rolls. I found the website and found My Grandmother was listed as a member of the Civilized Cherokee Nation. They were granted citizenship and recognized as freemen in 1904, I think it was. This totally confirms what I had believed. I feel better knowing this part of my ancestry.

Palmetto 08-29-2012 06:51 AM

Re: The Native American is in the Fight
 
So many of we white Americans have Indian ancestry back in our families somewhere. Most would never know by looking at us...

bamajoey 08-29-2012 04:17 PM

Re: The Native American is in the Fight
 
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Originally Posted by whymememe (Post 937052)
Most of them live on reservations in substandard conditions.

I was raised around the Creek Indians in south Alabama. The ones that live on the reservations in sub-standard conditions live there because they choose that life style. They could do better if they wanted to, but they don't.


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