The Firearms Forum - Gun Community

The Firearms Forum - Gun Community (http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/index.php)
-   The Ammo & Reloading Forum (http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=19)
-   -   help with load (http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=113891)

Appliancedude 09-23-2012 12:52 PM

help with load
 
Hey guys I finally ran out of unique and decided to try titegroup. I'm loading 158 gr cast RN. Lymans 49 doesn't list a load. Hodgson lists a load for a LSWC 3.2 to 3.8. Lymans cast handbook lists a FN 2.9 to 3.3.

I'm shooting from a 357 so +P is ok. I'm thinking of starting at 3.4 or 3.5. What do you guys think?

JLA 09-23-2012 01:03 PM

Re: help with load
 
4.0 gr under a 158 is my load.

5.0 under a 125 shoots well too.

Appliancedude 09-23-2012 01:40 PM

Re: help with load
 
How hot is that load? highest I found was 3.8. I know those are kinda conservative for liability reasons. Would that be +P load?

JLA 09-23-2012 04:58 PM

Re: help with load
 
Its low level .357 loads in .357 brass. You didnt specify if you are loading .38 brass or .357. I dont load much .38 so i gave you .357 loads. Both would be in the +P range for .38 spec.

BlackEagle 09-23-2012 05:13 PM

Re: help with load
 
I use 4.2gr Titegroup in my .357 cases with a 158gr rnfp head. This works well for my Marlin 1894 lever action gallery rifle.

woolleyworm 09-23-2012 06:28 PM

Re: help with load
 
I would still start at 3.2, just don't load up too many. Not sure how far the range is for you to go test them; but I usually don't get to the range as often as I'd like.
I will load up across a "bell-curve" with my loads. Ie - load 3 rounds at 3.2, 3 @3.3, 5 @3.4 10 @3.5, 10 @3.6 and a few up to the max. This way, I can minimize trips for testing loads. I usually end up pulling a few bullets, but not many.

76Highboy 09-23-2012 06:31 PM

Re: help with load
 
Well I would recommend a diaper, maybe an adult sized or something like a "Depends" to help you with your load. That is my first thought. :D

76Highboy 09-23-2012 06:46 PM

Re: help with load
 
In my Modern Reloading by Richard Lee:

158gr Lead Bullet in .357

Titegroup 4.5gr = 1028 fps, 5.0gr = 1,610 fps

158gr Lead Bullet in 38 Special

Titegroup 3.2gr. = 815 fps, 3.8gr = 1,475 fps

I have never used Titegroup so a report back would be ideal.

76Highboy 09-23-2012 07:02 PM

Re: help with load
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JLA (Post 996529)
4.0 gr under a 158 is my load.

What is the velocity of that load? My math shows it cruising pretty slow and a 158gr. bullet tends to bounce back. Just curious Josh.

1969SS396 09-23-2012 07:16 PM

Re: help with load
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 76Highboy (Post 996676)
Well I would recommend a diaper, maybe an adult sized or something like a "Depends" to help you with your load. That is my first thought. :D

*Note to self* be very careful when phrasing topic :D

76Highboy 09-23-2012 07:24 PM

Re: help with load
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1969SS396 (Post 996708)
*Note to self* be very careful when phrasing topic :D

:D I got him good, didn't I. He, he, he.

Appliancedude 09-23-2012 08:06 PM

Re: help with load
 
Crap:D I shoulda seen that one coming. Sorry guys, its a 38sp load. Out of a 357. What you guys can't read minds?

JLA 09-23-2012 08:20 PM

Re: help with load
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 76Highboy (Post 996695)
What is the velocity of that load? My math shows it cruising pretty slow and a 158gr. bullet tends to bounce back. Just curious Josh.

Dunno. never chronied it. Its just a plinkin load. Hot .38 special level. Prolly 950 or so from my 6" gun.

JLA 09-23-2012 08:22 PM

Re: help with load
 
I tend to use max .38 spec loads in my .357 plinkin loads. or somewhere between max .38 and starting .357. Seems to be a good sweet spot for light .357 loads..

ryan42 09-23-2012 09:10 PM

Re: help with load
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 76Highboy (Post 996676)
Well I would recommend a diaper, maybe an adult sized or something like a "Depends" to help you with your load. That is my first thought. :D

Check this out highboy.I now have to do the grocery shopping which I hate but the other day there was an old man in front of me acting weird.All the sudden he stopped bend over slightly and crapped in his depends smack dab in the middle of the aisle.I pushed my cart off to the side full of stuff and walked out of the store.About made me upchuck.Thought I would share.Didnt mean to high Jack your Thread.:)

JLA 09-23-2012 09:12 PM

Re: help with load
 
when ya gotta go, ya gotta go..

BlackEagle 09-24-2012 01:35 PM

Re: help with load
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackEagle (Post 996642)
I use 4.2gr Titegroup in my .357 cases with a 158gr rnfp head. This works well for my Marlin 1894 lever action gallery rifle.

For what it's worth, I chronied mine and came up with an average of 1080 fps. Don't know if that helps or not.

judgecrater 10-05-2012 01:20 AM

Re: help with load
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Appliancedude (Post 996526)
Hey guys I finally ran out of unique and decided to try titegroup. I'm loading 158 gr cast RN. Lymans 49 doesn't list a load. Hodgson lists a load for a LSWC 3.2 to 3.8. Lymans cast handbook lists a FN 2.9 to 3.3.

I'm shooting from a 357 so +P is ok. I'm thinking of starting at 3.4 or 3.5. What do you guys think?

Just remember a recipe without an OAL is meaningless.

Appliancedude 10-05-2012 08:37 AM

Re: help with load
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by judgecrater (Post 1002271)
Just remember a recipe without an OAL is meaningless.

yea and being a dumbass and forgetting to mention that while I'm shooting from a 357 I want info on 38sp is kinda meaningless too. Don't ya think?

Black Cat 10-05-2012 12:21 PM

Re: help with load
 
Forget that it is a 357 and just load for a 38SP start with loads in the Lee Book and the Hodgdon Web I only target shoot any more. I use nthing but tightgroup for 38SP,9mm,40S&W,45ACP and have been able tyo work up very accurate loads which depends on the gun

Appliancedude 10-05-2012 03:11 PM

Re: help with load
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Cat (Post 1002351)
Forget that it is a 357 and just load for a 38SP start with loads in the Lee Book and the Hodgdon Web I only target shoot any more. I use nthing but tightgroup for 38SP,9mm,40S&W,45ACP and have been able tyo work up very accurate loads which depends on the gun

I know that. I forgot to mention it was 38sp in my first post. Problem was I can find no load data for a 158gr cast round nose bullet using titegroup for 38sp.

JLA 10-05-2012 09:57 PM

Re: help with load
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by judgecrater (Post 1002271)
Just remember a recipe without an OAL is meaningless.

second time ive read this. we got an LD junior here ;)

JLA 10-05-2012 09:58 PM

Re: help with load
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Appliancedude (Post 1002308)
yea and being a dumbass and forgetting to mention that while I'm shooting from a 357 I want info on 38sp is kinda meaningless too. Don't ya think?

somehow i saw it between the lines tho. :)

Appliancedude 10-06-2012 01:18 AM

Re: help with load
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JLA (Post 1002571)
somehow i saw it between the lines tho. :)

Which is why I love the info here. you can just read my mind:D


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:13 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2002 - 2013, TheFirearmsForum.Com