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JohnHenry 11-10-2012 09:19 AM

State Of Louisiana Wants Out Of The Union ....
 
See the update on additional states joining the petition to withdraw from the union;

http://www.topix.com/city/slidell-la...-united-states


https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...nment/1wrvtngl


we petition the obama administration to:

Peacefully grant the State of Louisiana to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.

As the founding fathers of the United States of America made clear in the Declaration of Independence in 1776:

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."

"...Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government..."

BillM 11-10-2012 10:50 AM

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Interesting. Looks like most of the signatures on the petition are
from people that do NOT reside in Louisiana. How would they be
valid?

cycloneman 11-10-2012 11:16 AM

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SImple that is future residents of the great state of Louisiana

zkovach 11-10-2012 05:47 PM

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Looks like Louisiana will have a population boom

Iron Eagle 11-10-2012 05:51 PM

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It looks like the white house is gathering info on who to go after.

Jerryboy 11-10-2012 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by zkovach (Post 1021864)
Looks like Louisiana will have a population boom

Hell will have a population boom which includes the entire population of heaven and earth before a U.S. president allows a state to leave the union.

gvw3 11-10-2012 06:46 PM

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Looks like 40.6% of the states vote went to Obama. It may be a way to show displeasure but this will never happen.

dcriner 11-10-2012 07:03 PM

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To approve a state's removal from the Union is outside the president's authority. Has Louisiana's legistlature and executive approved this request? No, you are just a hack.

Declaring indepedence in our country has been tried twice, in 1776 and in 1861. To make it stick requires winning a war. Be my guest.

firefighter1635 11-10-2012 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dcriner (Post 1021917)
To approve a state's removal from the Union is outside the president's authority. Has Louisiana's legistlature and executive approved this request? No, you are just a hack.

Declaring indepedence in our country has been tried twice, in 1776 and in 1861. To make it stick requires winning a war. Be my guest.

No need for name calling. I'm sure it's just a showing of dis-content over the elections, to whom everyone here would agree with. But to think Louisiana would be alone to fight for their independance IF anything like this would ever come to bear would be a bad mistake. There are plenty of freedom fighters, or what you may consider terrorist's to come to their aid from all across this land. Oh, I seen your from Illinois so that explains your post.

RunningOnMT 11-10-2012 08:04 PM

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A point well taken though. Thank God our founding fathers didn't request that King George grant permission for our independence. But then, they were a different breed of men willing to sacrifice everything to rid themselves of tyranny.

jim summers 11-10-2012 08:09 PM

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Surely no one believes the government is going to let any state do that

rcairflr 11-10-2012 08:43 PM

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If Louisiana did defect from the USA, then they would want money from the rest of us (by way of our Federal Government), since they would not be able to survive on their own as a independent nation.

cycloneman 11-10-2012 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rcairflr (Post 1022006)
If Louisiana did defect from the USA, then they would want money from the rest of us (by way of our Federal Government), since they would not be able to survive on their own as a independent nation.

Our govenor has been refusing money from the fed. Jindal has refused to implament bozo or to take money for it. Same with issac.

I know what our law makers are thinking.

I am not saying this is gona make it thru but all it takes is one, the rest will follow.

We dont need the NE like they need us. Why would we need money from the govt? We are oil, gas and seafood rich. Just like some states are fruit rich.
Louisiana is not afraid of hard work. We have a port too. Large one.

nmckenzie 11-10-2012 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jim summers (Post 1021975)
Surely no one believes the government is going to let any state do that

There's been a secession movement up and running here in Alaska for some time now. Don't see it getting anywhere anytime soon, but it's kinda fun to think about.

nmckenzie 11-10-2012 10:20 PM

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Sort of secession in reverse I suppose, but didn't the population of Puerto Rico just vote to request Statehood?

Sgt 45 11-10-2012 10:32 PM

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If Louisiana tried to leave, Texas might follow, it would be interesting to see who else would climb on the band wagon. Oklahoma? Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky. It might start something and if all the producers left their states then the moochers would have no one's pocket to pick, could get real interesting. And the South will rise again. From a Michigan boy to boot.

armoredman 11-10-2012 11:02 PM

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No, that would be the triggering event Dear Leader would want, and he would use the threat of general insurrection to open the way for UN "Peacekeepers" to patrol all disputed areas. He could then do what one Democratic governor suggested a few months ago, and indefinitely suspend elections until the "issue is resolved". If evens went that far, I would suggest LA should prepare for French fleets in her harbors, Rwandan soldiers in her neighborhoods, and UN monitors in her schools and halls of government.

MikeH121 11-11-2012 12:37 AM

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We here have more guns than the UN....and even though Louisiana was settled by the French....the French are better at running away.

Texas would propably follow....

The Fed can only take so much before "The People" take back. The libs have made too many promises to the moochers. When they can no longer support food stamps and those on it are given MRE's instead they will turn on their own.

They may try to get us to turn in own guns, we won't, they will try to take them, then there will be Civil War. The Military will not follow those orders but will fight the UN troops. Too many Patriots in the US Military....

gvw3 11-11-2012 08:04 AM

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Folks may want to rethink this idea.

Louisiana taxpayers receive more federal funding per dollar of federal taxes paid compared to the average state. Per dollar of federal tax collected in 2005, Louisiana citizens received approximately $1.78 in the way of federal spending. This ranks the state 4th highest nationally and represents a rise from 1995

We live in the greatest country this world has ever known. We need to fix this government not tear our country apart. Europe tried to create what we have with their euro. Didn't work for them.

There is an old saying that is used around the world to describe America. America will get it right after they try everything else.

JohnHenry 11-11-2012 01:35 PM

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Up-Date on withdrawn from the union ;

http://www.topix.com/city/slidell-la...-united-states

flboots 11-11-2012 08:39 PM

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It will never happen. Might send a message to congress that the citizens of this country are feed up, and willing to fight or leave.

ShawnDow 11-11-2012 09:15 PM

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I see Michigan is now on the list of petitioners.

musketshooter 11-11-2012 10:28 PM

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I believe that was tried once during the 1860's. As I recall, the southern states lost!

crystalphoto 11-11-2012 11:57 PM

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SC now has a petition also.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...nment/KL6qrls8

RunningOnMT 11-12-2012 07:28 AM

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Compare these petitions to our original declaration of independence. In fact just look at the name. of the documents. On one hand you have a petition, on the other a document that declares. No serious body asks for freedom, they claim it then stand ready to defend it. I really like the state sovereignty movements but I wish people would get serious about what they are doing. This country was founded as a group of independent states united for a common purpose, we need to return to that model, that is, if it is in God's plan that the world continues awhile longer under the governments of men.


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