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hkruss 01-20-2010 07:35 PM

Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
So I am going hog hunting in a couple of weeks and I have a couple of questions for you.
First, which rifle should I use? I only have a Garand and an AR. I figured the Garand. 30.06, plenty of power, although a little heavy to lug around all day. Then a guy at work says use the AR. It seems silly to even ask, but it just seems to me that the AR with a 55 grain FMJ and less knockdown power is insufficient for the task. He contends that the faster bullet will have little trouble penetrating a tough hog hide and the bullet is sufficient if properly placed. Is he full of crap or is there any merit to his argument?

The other question is, where is your aiming point on a broadside hog? I was thinking right behind the shoulder but a little below the center line of the body. And would you recommend a neck shot instead, if he is close enough? Thanks

cycloneman 01-20-2010 07:55 PM

Re: Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
I have shot hogs with 223's before. Not a good round for this. Especially if the hog is big and fat. I have shot small ones and had to hunt them down too. I now use the same I use for deer. A 308 shot placed in the neck.

cakes 01-20-2010 08:13 PM

Re: Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
I have used the .223 on hogs without any issues. I aim just below the ear. I've never used FMJs, though.

old semperfi 01-20-2010 08:18 PM

Re: Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
a number of years ago i used a garand to hog hunt with. it was dif not a shoot and run with it gun if you needed to.the first hog i shot i hit it right between the eyes.sadly this shot hit at an angle and went right up the forehead and did not penetrate skull.pig came at me like a freight train.i stood my ground and put three in chest,no more freight train.i do want you to understand that by standing my ground i dont think i was brave.i am pretty sure i was too scared to move.i really think you would be better off borrowing a gun.45-70,30-30 some sort of lighter and shorter gun.if you stand hunting in a tree then the grand is perfect other than carrying it.i would not use a 223 although a properly placed shot will do the job.its your call but a dif would not ground hunt with either the grand or 223. old semperfi

Sandman 01-21-2010 08:53 AM

Re: Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
Buy a box of the federal premiums with the 60 grain nosler partition bullet. I think that would do the job. I certainly would not hesitate to use it.

questor 01-21-2010 11:11 AM

Re: Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
what about a 12ga shooting sabots?

flannelman 01-21-2010 04:41 PM

Re: Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
We have used .22 rimfires before. You must take a head shot right below or in the ear though. I prefer my .30-06 or .35REM though. I know a guy that hog hunts a lot and he uses his AR with good success. Bullet placement is critical though.

Terry_P 01-21-2010 07:45 PM

Re: Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
Of the choices I would use the 30-06. I don't walk much when I hog hunt but wait for them to come out to a feeder or just feed. I loaded some CT Partitions last year and used them on hogs. I shot a 150# hog with it in the lungs and it ran a little and then piled up. The CT was like a bomb when it hit the lungs. If you use the AR then shoot them behind the ear, as I wouldn't trust it for a lung shot and then have to follow up usually after dark.

308 at my gate 01-21-2010 08:40 PM

Re: Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
When I think of a 223 I think varmit round, and when I think of a 30-06 I think big game round. A .223 just does not have the ballistics that a 30-06 does.

cakes 01-21-2010 08:51 PM

Re: Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
I think you have a very valid reason to go rifle shopping. You already stated that you don't feel comfortable using either gun. Find an appropriate rifle chambered in an adequate caliber, then go afield with confidence.

Sandman 01-22-2010 08:39 AM

Re: Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
I shot a 150+ lb hog behind the shoulder with my .243 and he dropped like a rock. Full penetration at 220 yards. I would not be afraid to take a behihd the shoulder shot with a .223 either, but I would probably just shoot them in the head. It is a fairly large target on a hog. I have taken my .223 hog hunting, but have not had the opportunity to shoot one with it yet.

Sandman 01-22-2010 08:40 AM

Re: Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
That being said, this situation also makes for a good excuse to buy a new rifle!

cakes 01-22-2010 07:10 PM

Re: Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
Or a big bore upper for the AR.

hkruss 01-24-2010 05:24 PM

Re: Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes (Post 582410)
Or a big bore upper for the AR.

Wish I had the money to do that, but can't at the moment.

I do feel the Garand is more than adequate for the task. Eight rounds of 30.06 at the ready is comforting to have! I've since found out, we will be in tree stands, so lugging it around all day will not be an issue.

Thanks for all the input.


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Big ugly 01-24-2010 10:57 PM

Re: Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
8mm or 338 win mag for me. That 8mm hasnt failed me yet. Neither has the 338. That 338 gets em no matter where the bullet goes. Front shots in the skull aint no problem either. I had to save my dads butt when shootin a 200+ lb'er. He was usin the Mini 14 and scored a hit but the hog turned on him a 40 yards. I dusted it on both sides through the heart. I was inside 100ft on that shot.

CHW2021 01-29-2010 10:54 AM

Re: Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
Garand.... ya can't go wrong. Bring enough gun, hogs are tough. The Garand may be heavy but you also get bragging rights that last long after the fatigue is gone!!

45nut 01-29-2010 10:59 AM

Re: Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
.270, 30-30, .32 WS, .30 Carbine, .223, .243, 30-06, 7.62x39, 7x57, .308, .44 Mag, .357 Mag are all good hog calibers. I'd stay away from .22 long rifle though. :eek: :D

blackcat_attilio 01-29-2010 11:47 AM

Re: Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big ugly (Post 583909)
8mm or 338 win mag for me. That 8mm hasnt failed me yet. Neither has the 338. That 338 gets em no matter where the bullet goes. Front shots in the skull aint no problem either. I had to save my dads butt when shootin a 200+ lb'er. He was usin the Mini 14 and scored a hit but the hog turned on him a 40 yards. I dusted it on both sides through the heart. I was inside 100ft on that shot.

Hi Big ugly! An easy question to you: do you think a 8 Mauser (8x57JS) cal. is "enough" for a wild pig? Many thanks for your opinion about.

Terry_P 02-01-2010 11:57 AM

Re: Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
With hogs you don't get a decent blood trail because the fat plugs the hole and they are usually out just before or just after dark making an after dark follow up with a wounded PO'ed hog. That is why I feel they need to get hit with something that gets into the lung area and blows apart like a bomb. For that to happen the bullet has to have some zip and be decent enough to penetrate. If it goes clear thru then whatever energy is left over is lost and useless. I have shot them with an 06 with 150 gr a 270 with 130 gr. The hog I shot this year with the 270 (Sierra BTSP) dropped in his tracks which frankly surprised me as it was a lung shot. Good luck and enjoy the sausage.

Sandman 02-01-2010 02:00 PM

Re: Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 45nut (Post 586625)
.270, 30-30, .32 WS, .30 Carbine, .223, .243, 30-06, 7.62x39, 7x57, .308, .44 Mag, .357 Mag are all good hog calibers. I'd stay away from .22 long rifle though. :eek: :D

.22LR is okay as long as you put it in his ear...:D

Tnhunter 02-02-2010 01:13 PM

Re: Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hkruss (Post 580923)
So I am going hog hunting in a couple of weeks and I have a couple of questions for you.
First, which rifle should I use? I only have a Garand and an AR. I figured the Garand. 30.06, plenty of power, although a little heavy to lug around all day. Then a guy at work says use the AR. It seems silly to even ask, but it just seems to me that the AR with a 55 grain FMJ and less knockdown power is insufficient for the task. He contends that the faster bullet will have little trouble penetrating a tough hog hide and the bullet is sufficient if properly placed. Is he full of crap or is there any merit to his argument?

The other question is, where is your aiming point on a broadside hog? I was thinking right behind the shoulder but a little below the center line of the body. And would you recommend a neck shot instead, if he is close enough? Thanks


Well, if you're anything like most others who try hog hunting, once you try it, you'll be hooked, just like getting hooked on deer hunting. That Garand will definitely work well, no doubt. But since you'll now become a "hog hunter" you'll surely need a new rifle, just for that!:D

Now when you go shopping for it, I'd say take a look at some short handy rifles (read that lever actions) and pay particular attention to the fine 30/30, .308 Win, .308 ME, .338 ME, .35 Rem, .358 Win, .444 Marlin and of course that great oldie the 45-70.

My favorite.... the BLR in .358 Win. sweeeet!!

Enjoy your hunt! (and aim tight behind the shoulder, or right on the lower shoulder!)

Suicide*Ride 02-03-2010 11:12 PM

Re: Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tnhunter (Post 589260)

Now when you go shopping for it, I'd say take a look at some short handy rifles (read that lever actions) and pay particular attention to the fine 30/30, .308 Win, .308 ME, .338 ME, .35 Rem, .358 Win, .444 Marlin and of course that great oldie the 45-70.

My favorite.... the BLR in .358 Win. sweeeet!!

Tnhunter; you forgot to mention above, my 2 favorite hog rifle calibers..... 357mag & 44mag. :p

I've taken more hogs w/ my Winchester Mod.94 44mag "Trapper" [& the 305gr FPPN in my signature] than I can remember. A short, light weight brush gun that uses the same caliber as the small arm I normally carry while hunting.

SR

Tnhunter 02-04-2010 03:19 PM

Re: Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicide*Ride (Post 590488)
Tnhunter; you forgot to mention above, my 2 favorite hog rifle calibers..... 357mag & 44mag. :p

I've taken more hogs w/ my Winchester Mod.94 44mag "Trapper" [& the 305gr FPPN in my signature] than I can remember. A short, light weight brush gun that uses the same caliber as the small arm I normally carry while hunting.

SR

I did indeed! Might be because I had a near disaster shooting a big Boar with a Marlin 1894/44 with 270gr SPs. I'd have been much better off with the 305s you mention, or the 340s from B/B. Not sure I'd want to use a .357 tho on a really large hog...lol:eek:.

Olympus 02-09-2010 12:28 PM

Re: Hog hunting. Which gun to use?
 
The biggest question will be how you plan on hunting them. If you plan on being stationary, then the Garand wins hands down. But if you plan on doing any walking or spot and stalk method, then you'll want the AR. A headshot with the AR is what you're going to want. I go with a large group every year and the only hogs I've seen taken with a .223 have been head shots. You run into fragmentation issues with the .223 when you go for a body shot.

Personally, I own a .223 and I would never think about taking it with me on a hog hunt. The hogs we hunt are constantly moving and NEVER stand still longer than a second or two. That's just not enough time for me to get comfortable with taking a head shot.

questor 02-10-2010 01:43 PM

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Check out this 781-pounder killed in Turkey in 2005. Note: there are four pictures of the hog and on the last page states the hog was actually killed in Turkey, not Texas as the email circulating the internet.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/ani...ld_boar_tx.htm


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