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wpage 03-31-2010 05:47 PM

Marines re military arms and history are they elite?
 
Most military arms experts agree the US Marines are the foremost elite arms assault troops historically...
Do you agree?

navis128 03-31-2010 05:51 PM

Re: Marines re military arms and history are they elite?
 
Why of course, who would doubt it?

Should this be a poll? Just wondering.

old semperfi 03-31-2010 06:05 PM

Re: Marines re military arms and history are they elite?
 
for years and years the marines were always called on first for sea based assaults,they were and are the elite.i joined the corp in 1969 and have since talked to pretty much every branch of the milatary re just boot camp,we had it harder back then than anyone and although its easier now i still think training is more intense in the crotch than any other branch of the service.ther are other branches of the service that are specialized such as seals and special forces but there is still marine recon.i may be a little one sided on this for some reason.......................old semperfi

hogger129 03-31-2010 09:51 PM

Re: Marines re military arms and history are they elite?
 
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Originally Posted by wpage (Post 618838)
Most military arms experts agree the US Marines are the foremost elite arms assault troops historically...
Do you agree?

I am a big history buff and I agree, the US Marines were the foremost elite assault troops for a LONG time.

These days, they are up there, but there are lots of more specialized groups for things that didn't really exist for a long time. Like the Navy SEAL's, Marine Force Recon, CIA, Delta Force, Green Berets... Basically what one would consider "Special Forces."

Eddie N 04-01-2010 04:04 AM

Re: Marines re military arms and history are they elite?
 
The Marines Hymn says it all. Air, land, sea, first to fight, etc. It's good to specialize, but also good to know the next man's job, also.
Yes, I was. Joined 1976.

Jay 04-01-2010 04:37 AM

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Any opinion I would express would be decidedly biased... :rolleyes:

Semper Fi

steve666 04-01-2010 08:51 AM

Re: Marines re military arms and history are they elite?
 
While I admit to bias the answer is OF COURSE!!!

wpage 04-02-2010 08:38 PM

Re: Marines re military arms and history are they elite?
 
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Originally Posted by steve666 (Post 619096)
While I admit to bias the answer is OF COURSE!!!

No Poll required...
Marines rule elite assault.
No one else comes close. On this earth!

islenos 04-05-2010 01:45 PM

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Is that a trick question?:confused:

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jim brady 04-05-2010 02:18 PM

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wpage - you trying to start trouble here? Which Military Expert Marines did you Poll? So far every answer have been from Jarheads. Now there's nothin' wrong with the Marines. After all, they are an elite branch of the Navy. Why, the Navy even went to all the trouble of putting Marines on ALL their boats.

They try to train as hard as the Rangers. Shoot, even the swabees who can't qualify as Rangers copy-catted them with their very own Seals. Gotta give them credit. The wing-walkers (Air Force) even gave it a shot. You wanna be a Ranger you gotta join the Army.

(By the way, I'm former Army, and yet the FINEST Officer who ever lived was Gen. Chester Puller)

Seriuosly, EVERY branch has an ultra-elite group within. They are ALL incredibly GREAT. Who is the best? Depends on the mission. Missions vary only as much as the limits of possibilities.

PunjabiPillbox 04-06-2010 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jim brady (Post 620804)
wpage - you trying to start trouble here? Which Military Expert Marines did you Poll? So far every answer have been from Jarheads. Now there's nothin' wrong with the Marines. After all, they are an elite branch of the Navy. Why, the Navy even went to all the trouble of putting Marines on ALL their boats.

They try to train as hard as the Rangers. Shoot, even the swabees who can't qualify as Rangers copy-catted them with their very own Seals. Gotta give them credit. The wing-walkers (Air Force) even gave it a shot. You wanna be a Ranger you gotta join the Army.

(By the way, I'm former Army, and yet the FINEST Officer who ever lived was Gen. Chester Puller)

Seriuosly, EVERY branch has an ultra-elite group within. They are ALL incredibly GREAT. Who is the best? Depends on the mission. Missions vary only as much as the limits of possibilities.



I worked with the Rangers.....
I weren't impressed....
SEMPER FI JIM!!!:D:D:D:p

islenos 04-06-2010 06:18 PM

Re: Marines re military arms and history are they elite?
 
I was very impressed with the Army Chopper Pilots. They were always where they said they would be and on time to boot.

But I must admit, Rangers are pretty good fighters, much along the same lines as a Marine Motor T Wrench Monkey:eek::D

jim brady 04-06-2010 07:56 PM

Re: Marines re military arms and history are they elite?
 
You're killing me. You know the Navy calls helicopters "Helos", The Army calls them "Choppers", the Air Force calls them "Whirley-Birds". The Marines point up and call them "Uh-Uh".

Remember, my Brothers - I'M ONLY KIDDING!!!!!!!! (Marine Motor T Monkey Wrench???!)

uzim16 04-06-2010 08:48 PM

Re: Marines re military arms and history are they elite?
 
I think Marines,Rangers,Airborne,Royal Marines,Airborne units in CF, Foreign Legion should be the same.

islenos 04-06-2010 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by uzim16 (Post 621409)
I think Marines,Rangers,Airborne,Royal Marines,Airborne units in CF, Foreign Legion should be the same.

what would be the fun in that?:D

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(Marine Motor T Monkey Wrench???!)
AKA Mechanic for Marine Motor Transport Battalion

Every Marine, no matter the MOS is a Rifleman First

wpage 04-08-2010 04:04 PM

Re: Marines re military arms and history are they elite?
 
Always elite on their feet...

USMC.
God Bless Them All!

xm774u 07-26-2010 09:11 PM

Re: Marines re military arms and history are they elite?
 
us army lrp i disagree

xm774u 07-26-2010 09:12 PM

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i love the navy though when we have to fight they give us a ride semper fi

xm774u 07-26-2010 09:17 PM

Re: Marines re military arms and history are they elite?
 
of cource the river rats and seals will get a hands up there all good even the air farce
i just wish the fwd controllers would have stopped when they seen the big blaze oarnge pannel markers in the gulf hello warthog pilots lol

Jay 07-26-2010 09:28 PM

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Now there's nothin' wrong with the Marines. After all, they are an elite branch of the Navy.
yep... the men's branch......

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Why, the Navy even went to all the trouble of putting Marines on ALL their boats.
Someone has to protect the flag officers.....

big steve 07-26-2010 11:26 PM

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Yes most definitely the most dangerous weapon is a Marine and his rifle. Semper Fidelis

199er 07-27-2010 12:11 AM

Re: Marines re military arms and history are they elite?
 
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Most military arms experts agree the US Marines are the foremost elite arms assault troops historically... Do you agree?

I'm an Army vet and yes I agree with the the above, however in the past 30 years combat assault missions (joint and otherwise) have become very unit and mission specific and another group is now on the "Tip of the Spear" with the Marines.

I believe the Marines have a long and storied history as elite assualt troops and it's well deserved reputation is not based soley on amphibious assaults.........it is also based on ground assaults as well. Off the top of my head two come to mind.....the ground assault to retake the city of Hue &the Citadel in TET of '68'. Second one coming to mind would be the ground assault to retake the Iraqi city of Fallujah. So I have to say the Marines are the premiere elite assault force, however, without taking anything away from the Marines, I think they share the "Tip of the Spear" with the Army Special Operations 75th Ranger Regiment. Mass Airborne Assaults (company and multi-battalion size) are their speciality and again, off the top of my head two that come to mind are: The Grenada incursion in 1983 when the 1st Ranger Battalion made a combat airborne assault at 0530 hrs onto Point Salines airfield from a height of only 500 feet (to reduce exposure time to enemy fire but too low to use reserve chute)". Secondly, The 3rd Ranger Battalion made a night combat jump into southern Aftghanistan in October 2001 securing an airfield. This was the initial combat operation in Aftganistan.

Again, my vote is for the Marines as the elite assault military assault force but the Army Special Operations Ranger Regiment has shown itself to on the "Tip of the Spear" as well when called upon to excute it's core missions.

Old Grump 07-27-2010 05:30 PM

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Don't tell any marine I said this but in my opinion the Marines didn't need a special force to add to their arsenal. They were and are a special force.

And I deny I ever said that.

xm774u 07-27-2010 08:19 PM

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actually the most dangerous guy is a scared 18 yr old with a m16 ...

xm774u 07-27-2010 08:20 PM

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or a commie with a ak @ 10


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