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petesusn 04-03-2010 11:13 AM

Unusual firearms
 
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I wasn't sure what topic to post this in.

But I'll start the topic.

Jim K 04-03-2010 07:55 PM

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Duckfoot pistols are well known, if not exactly common, but that one looks like something out of a video game. Wild!

The Reform is a bit more common and apparently quite a few were made. I have one, but without the safety. They are double action, chambered for .25 ACP. The barrel block is inserted all the way down into the gun, and then rises as the trigger is pulled. They are interesting in that the barrels are connected by ports toward the front, so that discharging the second barrel blows out the empty case in the first, and so on. The empty in the bottom barrel has to be removed by hand. That is why the hammer has such an odd shaped spur; it deflects the blown-out empties away from the shooter's face.

They have the advantage of being very flat and reportedly were often carried under a gentleman's cummerbund, when gentlemen wore such things.

As to the first pistol (assuming that is what it is), you got me. I have never seen anything like it and am not even sure of the scale. A bit of a description and a ruler for scale would help us understand it, and maybe someone can even identify it.

Jim

petesusn 04-03-2010 08:36 PM

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Produced in the 1800, the (probably French made in 5 mm cal.) ring pistol is a perfect example of what was known as “la petite protectors”. The ring pistol once was one of the smallest killing devices ever developed. There doesn’t seem to be much info around regarding the practicality of the finger mounted firearm. If it were fired, the smoke, flames, and noise would be considerable. The muzzle velocity would probably be so low that the powder burn would be worse than the bullet. So maybe it doesn’t classify as the most efficient killing device but considering when it was made and the craftsmanship it took to make, it certainly is an exceptional one off antique firearm. Hat’s off to the unknown creator.

You can buy a replica non-firing ring pistol here...

http://www.digbyandiona.com/store/show/BSPR

Alpo 04-03-2010 09:01 PM

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How 'bout a nice pocketwatch?

petesusn 04-04-2010 05:07 PM

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Or the Turbiaux Palm-Squeezer Pistol.

Alpo 04-04-2010 06:52 PM

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Then we have the Collier flintlock revolver.

Jim K 04-04-2010 08:41 PM

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Those are nice; I have a palm squeezer, but am green with envy at the watch and your Collier, especially in that condition!

Jim

Alpo 04-04-2010 09:55 PM

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I'm sorry. Did I miss the part where it says this has to be our own guns? :p

I believe that Collier is in a museum in England. Don't remember where I sniped that watch pic from.

Alpo 04-04-2010 09:57 PM

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I would love to have that watch, though. It is just too cool.

How 'bout a 2.7mm Kolibri. One of the, if not THE, smallest production handguns.

Alpo 04-04-2010 09:59 PM

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Then we go to the other extreme. A 2-bore rifle. That would be a 33.6mm, or 1 1/3 inch bore.

petesusn 04-05-2010 12:53 AM

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A 2 bore rifle? I don't think I'd want to pull the trigger on that one.

wpage 04-05-2010 06:34 AM

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link to some cell phone gun videos...
http://www.google.com/search?q=cell+...ed=0CDgQqwQwCA

flintlock 04-05-2010 08:11 AM

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Now I want a 2 bore! Makes my 4 bore look underpowered!

Alpo 04-05-2010 08:55 AM

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Then we have the HK P11 Underwater Pistol.

ofitg 04-05-2010 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by petesusn (Post 620594)
A 2 bore rifle? I don't think I'd want to pull the trigger on that one.

If you had been a sea-faring man a couple of centuries sooner, they might have given you one of these shoulder-busters - Henry Nock's 7-barrel volley gun -

http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/a...ngers/nock.jpg

ofitg 04-05-2010 11:37 AM

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I imagine that some of the older guys are familiar with this, but it's still unusual -

Quiet Special Purpose Revolver (QSPR) - captive piston cartridge, fires fifteen .14 tungsten buckshot at 750 fps, sounds like a silenced .22

http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/a...ngers/qspr.jpg

Alpo 04-05-2010 12:53 PM

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That made on a Model 29 44 magnum? Seems like I read about a special silenced revolver based on a model 29, in Soldier of Fortune, years back. It was for tunnel rats, in Vietnam. Could shoot the Cong, without blowing your eardrums or having the concussion make the tunnel come down around you.

Alpo 04-05-2010 12:58 PM

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We have a store-bought knuckleduster gun. A "My Friend". Then we have a home-made knuckleduster gun.

ofitg 04-05-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpo (Post 620759)
That made on a Model 29 44 magnum? Seems like I read about a special silenced revolver based on a model 29, in Soldier of Fortune, years back. It was for tunnel rats, in Vietnam. Could shoot the Cong, without blowing your eardrums or having the concussion make the tunnel come down around you.

I think you're right, it's a modified S&W 29.... "tunnel rat" gun.

That HK P11 was a strange duck, I never heard of that before.

Alpo 04-05-2010 01:44 PM

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The muzzle pic shows it after being fired. The chambers are sealed and the charge tears through the plug.

ofitg 04-05-2010 02:27 PM

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Here's a couple more from those pesky Germans....

Nazi Belt Buckle gun -

http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/a.../bucklegun.jpg

WW2 Fliegerfaust... granddaddy of the Redeye and SA-7

http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/a...iegerfaust.jpg

mesinge2 04-05-2010 10:18 PM

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OTs-38 silent revolver made on FSB Russia
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.380 ACP Russian Tula R-92
Because on the location of the grip in relation to the cylinder they warned not to use hot loads to avoid the flash from burning the hand. They also made it in 9x18 Makarov
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11.25x36mm Montenegrin Gasser
I just consider this caliber odd.
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mesinge2 04-05-2010 10:35 PM

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Perhaps a dozen of these specialized guns were made in Nazi Germany. They fired either a .32 caliber or .22 rimfire cartridge and had a four-round magazine

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Jim K 04-06-2010 09:50 AM

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There is a book, called Firearms Curiosa, by Lewis Winant, that is full of oddities like those. It was originally published in 1955; the first printing was of 1000 numbered copies, I don't know how large the second was, but AFAIK it is now out of print. Anyone interested in odd guns should try to get a copy.

The satirical Colt "ads" in the back are hilarious. One "ad" is for a monstrous "pocket revolver" chambered for the .99 Colt, a cartridge firing either a 600 grain lead bullet or a 410 grain metal penetrating. Going with Colt's "snake" names, the artist called it the "Python." What a silly name; I can't imagine Colt ever actually calling a gun that.

Jim

Alpo 04-06-2010 09:57 AM

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Like this one?


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