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Believed to be a Steyr pocket auto chambered in .25, it is in good condition but i cant find anything about it. built in the 1900s pre WWII, help is appreciated

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Stumps me. Any markings or proof marks? I am virtually certain it is not Steyr; Spain would be more like it.

Jim

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No idea???

Denny G.

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its actually being processed by a dealer so i wont know about any numbers or markings until friday, thanks for the ideas though

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pretty neat. only bad thing would be finding a spare mag or 2 for it.

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Could you post a pix of the other side, too ?

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sure handgrips say SW and the only number on it is 366

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It looks like the Belgian N. Pieper Model C, as well as the Belgian "Vici" made by Henrard & Discry circa 1920 -1925, although neither of them had a grip safety. However, if your pistol has no proof marks it is most likely Spanish, circa 1910 - 1930.

By the way. Is it the shadow of the image or does this pistol have no trigger in the trigger guard?

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ya know it does look as if it's triggerless. perhaps fired on the grip safety? wow thats neat

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I assumed it was triggerless because someone removed the trigger (for whatever reason) and lost it.

Jim

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There doesnt seem to be any opening in the frame for a trigger:confused:

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I zoomed it up to 4X and sure enought there doesn't appear to be a trigger slot. I'm stumped.:eek:

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I bet when you squeeze the handle, when the lever behind the grip is depresed the pistol will fire! Just my thought.

Denny G.

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So your thumb goes in the trigger guard, your trigger finger is on the grip thingy and then you fire. Sounds like a cartoon gun I saw somewhere on here. The barrel points at the shooter like a gun built backwards..;):eek:

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No... No... Finger in the trigger guard. Your thumb works the grip-trigger, silly. It shoots around corners... And the empty is ejected into your mouth so you don't leave brass at the scene. :D

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It is a very interesting little gun. I wish we could get pictures of, front, top, action open, clear picture of the grips and the other side.

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I've been watching this thread for the last week and am beginning to think this may be a "one-off" or tool room prototype that never went anywhere.

I'm basing my opinion on the fact that the depth of knowledge here is quite high and no one has come up with just what it is. The grips sit at a strange angle and look like they were "borrowed" from something else and the fit and finish somehow just doesn't seem like anything that went into production.

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If there never was a trigger or plans for one, why a trigger guard? I have been thinking along the same lines as deadin, maybe a prototype or even a fake gun made for use in crime or to intimidate when a real gun is impossible to obtain. In that case, a trigger would not be needed, but then neither would a grip safety.

Jim

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It looks like a ''KBK 120 Kirby Dirby with a sweet pepper outdrive.'' Thats the model I make up for stuff when I dont know what it is.....:-)

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Where does the flux capacitor go?

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Some 30 yrs ago, I collected semi-auto pistols and belonged to the Nat'l Automatic Pistol Collectors Assoc and at one of their meetings, a similar guns was exhibited that fired by squeezing the lever on the back of the grip, instead of a standard trigger. It had a trigger guard however. A search of the European patent records may give a better answer. Ed.

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This is a Belgium WS or Wegria-Charlier made by Fabrique d'Armes Charlier & Companie, Liege. It's 6.35 mm Auto. Patented by inventor named Alfred Wegria in 1908, this pistol lacked a conventional trigger. It was fired by squeezing the pivoting lever set into the back strap of the butt.

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Nice find popgun!!

Here's a link: http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge...egria%20gb.htm

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Great info, Popgun and Deadin! I really wonder how folks come up with info on something like that.

I also wonder what the inventor could have been thinking, other than to just make something different. Still, some people must have bought the guns if they were made for 5 or 6 years.

Jim

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That would make an ideal front pocket carriy. Reach into your pocket for some loose change and "OPPS", a do it your self vasectomy:eek: