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Rhuga 11-19-2011 10:57 AM

The Best Of The Lower End Manufacturers
 
Which is the best and most trouble free of the following manufacturers?
Cobra
I.O.
Phoenix
Taurus
Kel-Tec
Bersa

Which brand is the worst?

6x6pinz 11-19-2011 11:32 AM

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for me it is like this
Bersa
Taurus
Ket-tec
Phoenix
Cobra
would not list IO since they can't seem to get things right and if you do end up with one and there is a problem they won't even return your email/faxes or phone calls or your FFL dealers

CampingJosh 11-19-2011 02:28 PM

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I would place these into two groups.

Bersa, Kel-tec, Taurus (Equal, just alphabetical)

Then lower: Cobra, IO, Phoenix (again alphabetical)

Some of Taurus' stuff will be better than some of Kel-tec's, but then on other guns it will be opposite. Both Kel-tec and Taurus are "idea" companies that frequently introduce new styles that are unlike anything else currently in production. When one of their guns shows strong market viability, one of the higher-end manufacturers will copy it in better materials and with tighter quality standards (S&W and Ruger have been guilty of this in recent years). Bersa seems less innovative, but they still make good firearms at a low price point.

jacksonco 11-19-2011 06:18 PM

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What? No Hi-Point?

Helix_FR 11-19-2011 06:21 PM

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Yep, Id say Hi Point, Bersa, Keltec

north tex 11-19-2011 08:03 PM

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I'd have to say that in my experience it would be:
Bersa
Kel-Tec
Taurus (customer service is their downfall)
High Point would mix in about here, but IMHO they are aimed at a different market.
The rest of them I haven't handled. Just see some negative stuff about the on the internet.

savage170 11-20-2011 12:05 AM

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Bersa
Keltec
Taurus
I have also had pretty good luck with some of the FEG clones

fleetwood1976 11-20-2011 07:41 AM

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I would say kel-tec and bersa. taurus is good but I don't consider them low end on price anymore.

group17 11-21-2011 09:41 AM

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Bersa
keltec
hi point
Taurus / customer service issues
Phoenix / read the reveiws and you will see they are much better then ring of fire quality.

Jim Hauff 11-21-2011 11:00 AM

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My thoughts mirror what Camping Josh posted, based upon both personal experience and from feed back from my circle of serious gun owners and shooters - all of which have CCW permits and carry and shoot regularly.

Rhuga 12-03-2011 09:56 PM

Re: The Best Of The Lower End Manufacturers
 
Thanks folks. Sorry, I forgot the Hi-Point. Right now, the High-Point C-9 9mm has some great prices as the year comes to an end.

franco45 12-06-2011 02:27 PM

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I have had several Bersas and Kel-Tecs that had no problems. I also had 2 Phoenix pistols that were reliable but just too many safeties for my liking.

Double Deuce 12-06-2011 03:37 PM

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I would say Kel Tec then Bersa

BobMcG 12-17-2011 09:19 PM

Re: The Best Of The Lower End Manufacturers
 
I'll group them like CJ did except I'll break them into three groups, and all in my humble opinion of course.

!st: Bersa, Taurus (own firearms from both).

2nd: Hi-Point, Kel-tec (own firearms from both).

3rd: Cobra, IO, Phoenix (no plans to own).

jericho 12-20-2011 11:37 AM

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Where does American Tactical rank?
I see they are in CDNN catalog.

CampingJosh 12-20-2011 12:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jericho (Post 841162)
Where does American Tactical rank?
I see they are in CDNN catalog.

American Tactical Imports is an importing company; they represent several manufacturers. This is one of those harder-to-answer questions without knowing which particular model you're looking at.

I've heard many, many positive reports about the .22LR 1911s that they offer (manufactured by GSG), but I can't really tell you anything specific beyond that.

DixieLandMan 12-20-2011 01:03 PM

Re: The Best Of The Lower End Manufacturers
 
Haven't shot all those listed but the two I have shot are:
Taurus
Kel-tec.

I love both guns and have 2 Taurus.


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