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Old 10-09-2012, 12:34 AM   #43
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Lets see, I am a life member of the Libertarian Party since George Bush Sr, stabbed us in the back and gave us Clinton back in 1993 but you finally googled Libertarians and now you know more about it than I do. So your a life member since 93 that makes you what 18. No wonder you don't know what your talking about Finally googled Libertarians? Again you think you know me. I've research Libertarians. I've listened to the Limbaugh of the Libertarian air waves (Niel Bortz) I've talked to true Libertarians and those that think they are and are really misguided liberals. You don't know crap about me jack. And you don't know what your partys stances are either. I notice you didn't argue the points I made, just deflected off in another direction.


I'm saying you support the constitution and the people who also support it or you support the old guard who are in politics to get in and stay in office, gather power and get rich at our expense. You made your choice. Patriot Act, TSA, loosened standards for wire tapping, jailed without charges or trial if somebody in power labels you a terrorist. Do you remember when this used to be a free country,Nope, I don't. I'm 36. You old guys screwed it up long before I was even born we were never perfect but we had the freedom to say and do pretty much as we wanted without having to worry about lawsuits and getting fined because your wild flowers look like weeds to the neighbors. And thanks to your generation you F'd that up didn't you. And left it for my generation to fix. Thanks a lot When I was a pup a lady sued and won cause she spilt hot coffee in her lap from McD's. Those lawsuits you speak of, not my generation, I grew up with that crap. Thank you and your generation for that crap

Congress passes laws making them mandatory for us but exempting themselves is not a good thing. Czars is not a good thing. The number of armed police officers for the Federal agencies has grown exponentially since 911 yet we have sections of our national parks closed to us because the government cannot corral the criminals who run free or control our borders but they will confiscate a belt buckle at the airport if it has a gun related insignia on it. Do you feel safer? Nope sure don't. And you think a guy from the 3rd largest party is gonna be different? Your out of your mind. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. He'll be as bad as the other 2 within 6 months

Every single campaign has been run on the promise that the size of government will be cut back yet we add new departments and agencies everytime somebody in Congress gets an itch. Have they made life better for us, made our schools better our our railroads safer or helped our ship building industry prosper? Nope, because we have never held them to their promises. We have been blind and mute for to long. We work our asses off and don't pay attention to what they do. I myself am waking up to it now. I'm 36 by most standards young and dumb. Whats your excuse? How long has your head been in the sand. Since you turned 18 in 93, (after all your a life member), well thats half my life slick. You got to keep your head in the sand a hell of a lot longer than I did. You should have woke up with Carter. You didn't. You kept your head buried and left it for another generation

Do you for one second think Romney is going to irritate his former colleagues by slashing their favorite programs or agencies or bust the civil servants union by putting a few hundred thousand of them out of work. News Flash, all that has to be paid for and the government does not have any revenue except what it can get from us. More people on welfare, fewer people working and the Federal work force growing so fast it makes growth industries look like amateurs. Again Nope. But he can't be as bad as the dipwad we have now. And HE IS the only other guy that can win. You waited to long. I know I know your only 18, you guys should have been working on this for a long time now. You didn't, you failed, and now its up to a new generation to do it. And we woke up to late. Its to late to push another candidate

Electing the same old politicians will not get the job done but all you can see is 30 days from now. Well Obama is not the problem he is just the visible head of a huge boil on the public butt. He is the visible sign of our problem but it goes much deeper and you want to perpetuate that. Romney is not the cure, the cure is a clean sweep of Congress and we won't get it because you are locked into the 2 party system. You are comfortable with that sacred cow and refuse to do anything about it because you might have to take a chance and do something bold and innovative. Again, you should have seen the light during Carter. You didn't. You left your head in the sand and then want to take it out on the younger generation because we were busy building familys and lives and not paying attention to what was going on, all the while not doing a damned thing about it yourselfs. I'm not locked into the 2 party system, I'm just smart enough to realize a 3rd party isn't going to win this one. You guys that woke up in 93 havn't done enough in 18years to push another party onto the scene. I've stated before we need to push 3rd partys at the state level. Thats not being done in most states. No, no go for the white house. Not a chance slick. You guys should have been pushing candidates for 20 years now. If you had, maybe we'd have a different country today.
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