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Old 10-18-2012, 01:19 AM   #144
KenV
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Default Re: Jew,Christian, Mormon, a childs question

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Originally Posted by 76Highboy View Post
...it is impossible for a human to keep a covenant with God.
It is? If you say so. But I personally know hundreds of people who have made covenants with God and have kept them. Essentially the whole Old Testament is about God making covenants with his people. Noah covenanted with God. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob covenanted with God and the rest of the old testament is an account of the success and failure of the following generations to keep that covenant.

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So if Jesus Christ dies as the new covenant then who am I to assume that I as a human can "Make or keep" a covenant with Jesus? That busts this theory.
Fascinating. I had no idea, not the slightest clue, that some folks believe that covenants are one way only. I always viewed covenants as two way, between God and man, and between man and God. God ALWAYS keeps his end of the covenant. Man, much less so.

But I believe I can covenant to take upon me Christ's name through baptism. And that by striving to keep that covenant my heart will be changed, I can become a "new man", and be accepted of him.

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Our best works are merely trash so how in the world can we obtain a covenant because we deem our selves righteous. I am sorry but it isn't me that can fill that boot.
I did not follow that at all.

Maybe the problem is one of definition. Perhaps your definition of covenant is different than mine. To me a covenant is two-way promise. God makes promises to me and I make promises to God. I don't see that as being "self-righteous" at all. To me that's the heart and soul of Christianity: to strive to shake off the natural man and put on the new man. If I strive to keep my side of the covenant, my offering will be acceptable to God and he will change my heart. And a changed heart is the only way we have to accept the gift of salvation and exaltation He offers.
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