[jack404]

but heres a thought , if the steel gun makers got off their butts and did similar instead of high end and costly marketing

i think we'd see more steel guns in cops hands

i saw the smith offering had a nice gift box set of knife and torch to go with the gun..

bugger all about long term maintainable solutions ...

the glock folks talked hard savings and long term value and thats what budget conscious folks are looking at

and they do it well