Re: What happened to Jack404?
After being accused of sticking up for a company and having members ask if TFF has been sold or bought out. Receiving several accusing emails and having TFF run down on the WWW for something we had nothing to do with and having "respectful" members spreading untrue messages about TFF and me. I feel like you have a need to know.
I've always been a private person out of necessity and have tried to treat people the way I want to be treated. It's worked well until now. I have been upfront with the members here and anyone that knows me personally will tell you the same thing......and there are several here.
Now, I've been crossed and I'm not liking it.
First of all TFF had nothing to do with this incident. The fight was brought here. Now, I've always had a rule. What happens on other forums stays on other forums. This rule was broken.
Now, I know most of you have had a few emails and have heard and believe one side of the story. Supposedly I have a friend or business associate at the knife company. FALSE. Although I do own one of their knives and like it as it has served me well.
I'll also protect any member here from attacks from outside people as I have Jack on four occasions when attacked by a muslum group on this forum.
I have protected TFF for almost 12 years and will until my toes turn up.
Now, I've supposedly ruined the reputation of someone I trusted and have helped on several occassions. Ruined his business and ruined him with his suppliers and I don't have a clue who they are. Messed up his military business ??,etc.
Did I PM the knife guy ? Yes I did to explain what was going on as best I could because I knew nothing about the FB thing. But I did know my Mod here [ I thought ] and tried to stick up for him and smooth things over with a large company.
( remember the protect TFF thing ? )
So, here's my email to the knife guy and his answer back to me. It's simple and to the point.
It's not even close to the emailed info some of you are getting but here it is for the world to see.
I had typed " a few of you should be ashamed" but I'm better than that so it was deleted.
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 13 Re: Jack404
Originally Posted by Shooter45
I just read Jacks thread and have moved it to a secure area out of public view.
Jack is an Aussie and can be hard to understand but he helps others. He tans Kangaroo hides and donates to Military burn victums. Their skin doesn't stick to the hair and come off when they are turned. Those are donated free. He has bought cases of Silver Bullet Gun Oil ( paid retail ) and donated to the Aussie Special Forces. Paid for out of his pocket. I could go on but you get the point. He's not begging for anything. He's more than willing to pay for your knives. Excellent knives, I might add.
I don't do the Facebook thing so I know nothing about it. He did ask for some help from the members here to try and secure Kershaw knives for the Special Forces in OZ. Not to buy but maybe help get them shipped on his dime. It seems Facebook called the folks spammers and a few had their accounts deleted or locked. I doubt you had anything to do with that but in his mind you did. ??
I know there was a rush to get your knives to the Oz SF before they deployed after Christmas. I can assure you that he isn't doing it for profit. Just his way of helping a fellow soldier.
He isn't a nut case but he can sure get wound up.
Anyway, sorry for the long message but trying to help you understand. Oh, and I think he wants you to say "Sorry" to the SF guys and members who had the problem on Facebook.
I hope this helps and sorry it took place here.
Shooter45 / Sam
I have little doubt that Jack is a good guy. Appreciate you reaching out and explaining the situation. Wish Jack would just have posted similar to this...but it is what it is.
I'm not a Facebook guy either, but I can tell you, nobody intentionally set out to insult anybody. It's not in our nature to do that sort of thing. Sounded like Jack just went off, and a few folks followed his lead. My guy shut them down as they came off really confrontational.
As far as the knives, sheesh, why didn't someone just say something? What knives and how many knives are needed? I'll get them out tomorrow.
See, that was easy.
Someone should have stepped in for Jack, he went off to the extreme. Making us sound like liberals who hate soldiers. Not cool.
Anyway, thanks again, and let me know about the knives.
That's it. Plain and simple.
I supposedly did all the above damage with one PM.
Now believe what you want because I'm done.