Newbie question: Carbine vs. Rifle
GroovyTed1
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(11/12/02 3:18:27 pm)
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Hi Folks,
Here is a nice, juicy newguy question for y'all:
What is the difference between a rifle and a carbine, exactly?
I'm sure this has been asked a million times, but I can't find a way to search through old messages... (another newguy thing, I suppose...)
-gt
1952Sniper
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(11/12/02 3:40:22 pm)
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That's actually a very good question. My understanding is that originally a carbine was a full-length rifle that had been cut down to make it easier to use while on horseback. Some would say a "short" rifle that shoots pistol calibers, but in the case of the M44 I would have to disagree.
I guess my own definition of a carbine would be any rifle that is not full-length. A Mosin Nagant M91/30 would be full-length rifle, whereas the M44 would be a carbine.
I won't call a rifle a carbine, but I sometimes do call a carbine a rifle.
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warpig883
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I would agree with you '52 sniper.
I think a carbine is any rifle that is shortened for ease of handling. It does not neccesarily have to shoot pistol caliber bullets.
Elite Sniper Squad
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(11/12/02 9:30:15 pm)
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carbine is a shortened rifle for easier carry or use in tight area's, usually the barrel is shortened. anything with 20" barrel or less is considered a carbine, under 18" illegal though.
rayra
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(11/12/02 10:40:36 pm)
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I'll agree with the dimensional definitions of 'carbine', but have to say that it's been used to also refer to so many of such weapons firing pistol calibers, that has become a synonymous meaning / definition.
Rich
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i thought anything under 16" was illegal... ??
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1952Sniper
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There are lots of SKS paratrooper-length guns out there with 16" barrels. They are legal.
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(11/13/02 5:57:43 pm)
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I have a Winchester Model 70 bolt rifle that is called a carbine. So, I know that the carbine designation is not for pistol shooting firearms only. Also, I sold a ak47 with a 14 inch barrel that had the 2" flash hider welded on. It was sold by SOG. they called it their shorty carbine. It even comes with a letter from the ATF to certify is legality.
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warpig883
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I ahd a 788 Remington .243 that was very short. It was called a carbine.
Tac401
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Minimum legal lengthon a rifle is 16-inches, legal minimum
length on a shotgun is 18.25.
This does not include C-3 arms, where any length is legal.
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1952Sniper
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(11/13/02 9:16:53 pm)
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Ok, we're still talking barrel length here, right? Not overall length?
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TallTLynn
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Yes sniper barrel length is what we're talking now.
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Correct Sniper. Any longarm with a barrel length of 20" or shorter is a carbine.
For instance, most Winchester '94s (usually in 30-30) are carbines.
The reason many people associate carbines with a pistol cartridge is because of the M1 Carbine issued to US troops during WWII and Korea. It was A carbine......not THE carbine.
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