[polishshooter]

And so did we..ALL those sandbags, logs, concrete and extra plates salvaged from knocked out half-tracks that drove Patton CRAZY at the end of the war because they were "cowardly" (?) and wore them out quicker due to the extra weight (probably true) on the M4s were NOT to stop 88s, but to MAYBE stop a shaped charge from a PF 15 or 30 getting through to the metal, but then the "skirts" on the later Pzkw IVs running gear and turret were the same thing....they didn't like our bazookas either....