[Contenderizer]

Thanks Guys, It looks as if we are reading off the same page (as in catalog pages). Problem is everyone is out of the little Vmax right now. Tried several places. Just ordered some, but its back ordered and have to wait three + weeks. Bummer about the accuracy of the Dogtown; I was looking forward to trying them when they become available. The price is right at $11.00 and change per hundred. I may give them a try anyway; my 10" Contender barrel may like them.