Originally Posted by belercous
No record exists of the congressional debates surrounding the 2nd Amen. Can anyone truly divine the Founders intent on this amendment? No, but we can get reasonably close.
Did the Founders intend to gaurantee each individual the right to own a gun free of gov. regulation? Most certainly not, and nobody with even a modicum of knowledge about our constitution could make the argument they did.
Buuull Pucky! Even a casual perusal of letters between statesmen or letters to the editor at the time, overwhelmingly indicate a vigorous support for the individual right to bear arms was at hand. There was a debate at hand over the subject of the 2nd Amendment alright, .
I know you're just baiting us here but really and truly, if you want to be taken credibly, do the research yourself. Just because you say a thing does not make it true.
Actually, most scholars would vehemently disagree with you. In fact many who once held your position. You sir are in the extreme minority here and in the general public.
This can't even be truly labeled an American only right. This was discussed throughout the 16th and 17th centuries in Europe and England. Any student of American History and the language at the time, unless mentally impaired, is aware of the fact that the Constitution is written as common law. It is not written in legalese nor is it in Latin.
The Framers were well aware of there heritage and historical background with European and British Common law. They made every effort to write in plain simple English used at the time.
Thomas Jefferson, by no means an imprecise thinker, wrote, "On every question of construction let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adapted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates and instead of trying what meaning can be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one which was passed."
A simple test here is to look at the phrase "A well regulated". In 1776, This meant 'A well functioning". Two very different meanings and one the liberals use as a bludgeon. Taking regulated to mean strangled with laws and regulations until meaningless.
I'm not sure if you are just ignoring the bulk of evidence to the contrary of your claims or you just are too . . . .
I can see my dander is up, I am not going to continue here but rather leave it at this. . . .
Do your own dang research instead of parroting the pablum of the left. The left being the socialist, communist, fascist, globalist, Soros Koolaid drinking left.
No where does it reference military only, or National Guard only or the Militia as an organized group but rather, the individual being prepared to defend his state or country with his personal firearm.
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