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LDBennett · 11-12-2009, 07:27 AM

The two stage trigger is on order and not yet installed but I have several guns (mostly European) with them and they are much easier to control when shooting groups on targets.

The point I was making was that single stage triggers with little creep and light pulls are dangerous as all the safety of large amounts of sear engagement (creep) is gone. It is particularly unsafe in a semi-auto weapon like an AR-15. With the dual stage trigger done right you get the safety of lots of engagement and the sweetness of a no creep letoff. Trigger pull level is not as important as a good letoff and the two stage trigger can have a good crisp letoff like a finely tuned single stage and be maximally safe when the trigger is not being pulled. Most American shooters do not appreciate how really good a two stage trigger can be or appreciate the safety it gives to a weapon.

I do have set triggers on my CZ's, which when set have extremely light and crisp trigger pulls. I not only find then hard to use when set to ounce levels buy find I can sometimes shoot them better when the triggers are not set and operate just like any other good single stage trigger at 1 to 3 pound trigger pull levels. The light single stage pull, for me, is hard to control and know exactly when the trigger is going to release the hammer or striker. The anticipation of an unknown release point can give me the shakes trying to control the trigger. This may well be just my problem but the two stage seems like my answer and it could be the answer to others as well.

LDBennett

11-12-2009, 07:27 AM	#4
LDBennett Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hesperia, CA Posts: 5,715	Re: AR-15 Triggers- a mini-study The two stage trigger is on order and not yet installed but I have several guns (mostly European) with them and they are much easier to control when shooting groups on targets. The point I was making was that single stage triggers with little creep and light pulls are dangerous as all the safety of large amounts of sear engagement (creep) is gone. It is particularly unsafe in a semi-auto weapon like an AR-15. With the dual stage trigger done right you get the safety of lots of engagement and the sweetness of a no creep letoff. Trigger pull level is not as important as a good letoff and the two stage trigger can have a good crisp letoff like a finely tuned single stage and be maximally safe when the trigger is not being pulled. Most American shooters do not appreciate how really good a two stage trigger can be or appreciate the safety it gives to a weapon. I do have set triggers on my CZ's, which when set have extremely light and crisp trigger pulls. I not only find then hard to use when set to ounce levels buy find I can sometimes shoot them better when the triggers are not set and operate just like any other good single stage trigger at 1 to 3 pound trigger pull levels. The light single stage pull, for me, is hard to control and know exactly when the trigger is going to release the hammer or striker. The anticipation of an unknown release point can give me the shakes trying to control the trigger. This may well be just my problem but the two stage seems like my answer and it could be the answer to others as well. LDBennett