Originally Posted by zb338
During WW2 whenever the Germans had the chance they grabbed
a 1911 and used it if they could get ammo. It was better than
any other gun out there. I have a few 1911's but if I had my choice
I would carry a Model 19 S&W chambered in .357. From 0 yds. to
200 yds. an enemy better be moving or they have been had.
I did 3.5 years of hard time behind a gun counter at a high volume gunstore some time ago. I met all kinds of people and got lots of war stories from fellas that were there in the flesh.
An older gentleman was at the pistol case looking at some 1911s. I asked if he wanted to look at any. He just told me about how looking at them reminds him of the last time he used one. By use I mean in a real war in a real gunfight. He ran out of ammo for his rifle and had to use his 1911 he had. He put 2 rounds into a Gerry at what he said was about 25-30 yards. It was winter time and the guy he shot was wearing two thick wool coats. When he got up to the shot enemy he was still alive, so he put two more in him. Upon inspection the two rounds did NOT penetrate the thick jackets, they just knocked the wind out of him. He told me he found himself a 9mm pistol (he could not remember the make) and never used the 45 again, and never had a penetration problem again. He declined to even hold a 1911.
Another guy told me a story about the Jungles of Vietnam. He and a bunch of guys were on a detail to build up defense around their FOB. A few had 1911s on them and the rest were working away. A VC came out of the jungle shooting them up. He had 11 .45" holes in him and kept on going like nothing was going on. One round from a M16 ended it all. While he was getting pumped with eleven 45 holes he killed 3 of his buddies. He was in tears by the end of the story and never wanted to touch one again because of the 1911 in his hands failed to save his buddies lives. His words, not mine.
I have seen first hand what a 9mm can do in real life with ball. It is no slouch folks. 45, 9mm, they will both fail as spectacular as the other.
As for the 1911. It is a marvel of even modern technology. To have one 99 years ago must have been a god send to our troops. I am a Glock guy. I have used and owned 1911s. I know what both are capable of. Use a good mag in a milspec 1911 and all you got is a less capacity (does not matter to me) heavier pistol as good as any Glock........