Re: Savage Sporter 23B .25/20
Hello. I just registered to this TFF due to the interest I have in the subject matter I occassionallly see here. I also have a savage 23B. Bought it a year ago from a gun-guy who needed the money to buy a 41 mag revolver for deer. So now his Uncle Charlies rifle is with me in a good long term home. Bear with me as I hope to help / need help.
Mine is about 80% and cleaned up real nice. Seriel # 563XX. Year made I don't know. This seriel # is on the round receiver right side between bolt slot and the chamber opening. Ref a earlier post, a number on the stock should match the receivers # but that stock number is not a guns legitimate seriel number. Now I just pulled off the buttplate and the stock butt and steel buttplate are stamped 55472 which is about 170 numbers after the receivers serial number!! --- DOES ANYONE know if savage could have made up stocks and later mounted to receivers with different numbers or could this be an after leaving factory swapout??
The buttplate is smooth steel with a neat oval logo in middle of indian chief holding a rifle with words Savage, Quality, and Trade Mark in it. this is just to neat looking to be a repro.
The walnut stock has the schenapel (spell) foreend.
The clip is intact and orig. Marked on right side SAVAGE SPORTER and below it 25-20 OR 32-20. This clip protruds about 9/16" below bottom of trigger guard. Clip has about 1/2" stipplinging or dimples each side at base. (CAUTION - several years ago I bought 2 repro savage 23D 22 Hornet clips from Numrich/Gun Parts and both were imports and failed to feed without aggressive bending of springs to give "nose-up" cartridge force) The clip limits cart OAL to 1.60" or so so we are stuck with the short nosed bullets if clip feed is desired vs using the sleek pointed buillets for the other 25's. The orig clip is removed by pushing into the action and also pushing forward to clear the aft mounted clip lip There is no external lever or conventional release.
Sights - beaded blade front dovetailed mounted to a screwed-to-barrel ramp.
Rear sight missing and dovetail slot neatly filled in with lead. Anyone have/know of an orig rear sight for sale? I was told the early 99's were the same rear sight.
This has a nifty but unmarked receiver sight on the left side. Mounted with two screws just behind and below the 25-20 stamping.
Also mounted is a 3/4" black on brass tube scope that is unmarked. OAL 15 1/4". Might be 4X or so. No el/wind adj on scope body. Mount is marked WARDS TELESCOPE SIGHT MODEL 10 in 3 lines and has a lever to adjust vertical to clear the barrel sights as well as remove from gun as desired. Mount also has the el/wind adj external knobs on front mount ring. This mount sits in a dovetailed NEWTON marked base that is screwed to receiver. Taken together, the system looks real classy for an up to 100 yd or so rifle. ANYONE know what this scope system could be?
Value? Irrelevant!. These old guns need good homes and want to be shot.
Being a handloader thats whats coming up. This is the .25-20 which is the .25WCF, thanks to the CAS we have lots of products to choose from to handload with. Anyone know the twist rate or know of whether I should use cast or factory jacketed bullets as a starting point top get going?