[SlugThrower]

I respect your opinion re: everyones comfort zone BigSnore and there is no question that the Ithaca Deerslayer III is one really good DSG. That said, I believe your comfort zone (regarding the need for quick backup shots) might change if, like me, you had killed every one of the 13 deer you shot at (with an Ultra Slug) with quick 1-shot kills. My 12 Ga. Ultra Slug prefers 3" Federal Hydra Shok sabot slugs and every one of those 13 deer dropped where they stood. I mean that they did not move an inch. I have also had the opportunity to hunt bear in New Brunswick. I switched to Brenneke Black Magic clugs for bear. I hunted from a treestand located 75 ft. from the bait barrel and again, the 275 lb. bear dropped with a single passthru shot from my Ultra Slug, with it's spine cut cleanly by the slug. Now just one more thing - I also own an Ithaca Deerslayer III and it is a beautiful gun that shoots very well. However, my H&R Ultra Slug shoots just a bit better at less than 1/5 the price. It isn't nearly as pretty and it doesn't offer a quick backup shot but I still go for the Ultra Slug every time when hunting from a stand. That is my personal comfort zone. Good luck Big Snore - regardless of what you choose to hunt with.