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Originally Posted by fireboy
Nailing Obama using the 14th Amendment will be a problem. Creating the "doubt"
will be much easier and applying for eligibility in the different states will
be his down fall, he has yet to prove he was born in the U.S..
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Actually Hawaii state law says that the certification of live birth that was issued and shown on the internet meets all requirements for a birth certificate in the USA. There is no law in the entire USA that makes this printout unacceptable where a birth certificate is required. You can look for yourself on the Hawaii government website. Here is a good place to start.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscur...-0344/HRS0338/
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscur..._0338-0013.htm
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Copies of the contents of any certificate on file in the department, certified by the department shall be considered for all purposes the same as the original,.....
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So legally, Obama has all the proof he needs. We will need to defeat him the old fashion way, at the ballot box.
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Originally Posted by fireboy
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In the link above, it says in part "The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born." The Constitution actually says the following about who can be president.
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No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President
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This is what the framers intended. The framers wanted natural born citizens but also "grandfathered" in those who were not born in the country (ie before 1776). Some of our early presidents were born British subjects and would not have been qualified to be president if it was restricted only to those who were natural born citizens. I copied this from a sticky in this section of the forum. Although the grandfather clause is now a moot point, if anyone is going to discuss framer intent, it needs to be included.
Bob Unruh (the author in your first link) is an idiot for thinking he is qualified to have an opinion on the matter if he is just going to make things up and pass them off as the truth.
I am not aware of any country that forces citizenship upon any school students, but it seems stupid to assume that any of them did. I would think that even the most backward of countries have more stringent requirements for potential citizens.
As far as relevent records to prove that Obama is a natural born citizen, that one has been released. It is up to Obama to keep private or release other records. If he needed to do so to get on a ballot, then he might not keep them private. But as long as he was running against the lame McCain/Palin ticket, he could have done anything and still been elected. If the GOP does not get their head out of their ass, then Obama is going to effortlessly skate in for another four years.
I cannot get your "BORN IN THE USA?" to open.
Is there a certain link from your search that you wanted to discuss?