Originally Posted by fireboy
I think the point has been missed completely. What these states are trying
to do is make sure that those who are running as candidates are qualified.
I think you need to read those bills again. In the case of AZ, the bill requires that a person submit a document that they probably cannot possess. AZ law does not allow the state to give up the original birth certificate to anyone requesting it, they only issue certified copies.
What Burges is doing is making it impossible for anyone born in AZ to appear on the ballot for president. If she does not understand what her own state law says about birth certificates, then she is not so bright. If she knows, then she is doing her constituents a grave disservice by taking away their vote for president, especially as most other states as far as I know have similar laws about original birth certificates.
If you take a look at http://www.azdhs.gov/vitalrcd/birth_index.htm
you can see exactly how Burges is trying to screw over the people in Arizona. It clearly allows certified copies, but restricts originals. Take a look at HB2544. http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/50leg/1r/bills/hb2544p.pdf
It clearly requires an original birth certificate.
Based upon the e-mail forwarded to me, I think she is an idiot. But maybe she does have an agenda and hopes to screw over the people living in the state instead. Here is her e-mail;
From: Judy M. Burges <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Subject: RE: HB 2544
To: "Bob Williams" <email@example.com>
Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 2:53 PM
Bob: We are going to be changing our law a little in some areas like a certified copy of our birth certificate. In Arizona, vital records has all information considering birth certificates. My children were born here and all have a long form birth certificate. I was born in Colorado and have a long form birth certificate. My husband was born in Oklahoma and has a long form birth certificate. We consider them all original birth certificates. Judy
Maybe she does have an original birth certificate; good for her. This might make her one of the few people qualified to be on the ballot for president in AZ. Agenda anyone? She might consider a certified copy an original, but she would be an idiot if she did. She says that they are considering changing bill 2544 to require certified copies, but it has been over a month since I got the e-mail and there is no change so far according to the AZ gov website. According to the AZ gov website, the bill is still in the Judiciary committee and had until sometime in February to get out, so it looks like her bill is dead.
Burges needs to change the bill to require a certified copy if she hopes to gain any credibility. But her decision to require an original may come back to haunt her if an amended bill is up for consideration next session. It is too bad, all of the states should have a law that requires a certified copy of a birth certificate showing place of birth for a presidential candidate, but this fiasco might hurt the chances of a good bill being passed into law.