Originally Posted by reynolds357
The Vangard 2 is a vast improvement over the Vangard. It may not look quite as good, but it shoots much better.
On that one I will beg to differ with ya. Besides 3 Howa 1500s, between myself and a friend we've got 4 early Vanguards and 2 S&W1500s. A handful of us in the area have been using that rifle for quite a few years for prairie dog and coyote rifles. They're an excellent rig right off the rack. The only weak spot is their semi-adjustable trigger but the early Series 2 had it too.
Very beautiful metal finish work and excellent wood on either brand (although I don't care for the classic Weatherby stock design, I prefer the more "traditional" S&W stock profile).
Weatherby guaranteed the accuracy of the early Vanguards too...because they knew Howa was building quality rifles for them back then just like they still do. No different than the Series 2.
The fit and finish on the new Vanguard is very sloppy compared to the early models...it's finished no different than a Howa 1500 anymore, which is why they're down to nearly the same price instead of being several hundred higher. Yeah, I know we already discussed the price point (and features) in another thread a while back.
Cheap synthetic stocks and matte metal finish on both of em, the metalwork and furniture is a big step down from the early Vanguards. The new two-stage trigger is a noteworthy improvement on the recent Series 2 though if you like the current trend towards two-stagers. I don't mind it. It does beat the previous Howa trigger by a long shot.
This is all a moot point since there is no left-hand model in the Howa/Vanguard lineup and a lefty is what oldbrass is looking for.