[gcalloway]

I think the 357 is a good round also. You can practice with 38s and load the bad stuff for self defense. Have you ever felt recoil when you were shooting at something or someone live? I did not think so. Recoil is only a problem when shooting paper targets or tin cans. I have the ultimate torture weapon. I have a smith 460 magnum with a 2 inch barrel. I practice with 45 colt cowboy ammo so it is a joy to shoot in practice. I have shoot a box of full house loads and decided the next time I shoot full house loads something is going to die.