[Orin]

Thanks guys... I'll wait till the next gun show probly but I'm leaning towards the Thunder. Prices vary quite a bit. Dunno why you'ld be wary of handloads in a carry gun! i prefer them... But I'm a revolver guy. However, once a dependable load is devised for its specific weapon the gun should be MORE dependable than when using only factory food. Spechully in a picky auto.