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jlloyd73 · 05-13-2012, 09:46 AM

"The most recent legal scuffle began in 2008 when Hopler, who became legally blind as a result of diabetes in 1991, shot himself in the shin while cleaning one of his guns.

Police responded to his home and seized numerous guns in plain view, leaving behind those guns stored in Hopler’s safe."

Sounds to me like they have had these guns since 2008.....we are now in what year? NJ has been dragging their feet and I am sure they will continue to do so.

I don't remember seeing in the 2nd Amendment saying "The Right to Bear Arms ....unless you are blind" Whats next....people with only one hand will be banned because they cannot possibly hold their gun effectively. Maybe people with heart conditions..........you never know when they might have a heart attack, they might be holding their gun when they do and end up shooting 15-20 people

I mean aren't all guns high capacity and fully automatic????? LOL

They are also saying because he is an alcoholic ‘you’re a habitual drunkard and we think it’s improper because you’re a habitual drunkard.’"...........suffers from alcoholism. Lets look into that for a second. So that is defined several ways depending where you look......you can be an alcoholic if you have a couple of beers at night when you get home to relax (its about the compulsion to need to drink the alcohol), so people don't think you are a alcoholic unless you are drinking a case a night (the compulsion to drink that much)......the key word is compulsion.

I don't know how much this guy drinks and I really don't care. The main thing is feeling they need to take away his right because he feels the need (or compulsion) to have a drink now and then. The second doesn't say anything about alcoholics or people with compulsions. So, whats next.......what types of compulsions are next? People that have a need to drive a little faster, pick their nose too much, drink soda too much, etc.

Its the guy's hobby, give him a break. So, what.....now if the government doesn't approve of the hobbies you like to do....they can come in and make you stop.

I know its a far reach but it's that really what this is about........people (the government) reaching to far into other people's rights?

05-13-2012, 09:46 AM	#8
jlloyd73 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Contributor Posts: 1,931	Re: Blind Gun Collector, and the Law ...... "The most recent legal scuffle began in 2008 when Hopler, who became legally blind as a result of diabetes in 1991, shot himself in the shin while cleaning one of his guns. Police responded to his home and seized numerous guns in plain view, leaving behind those guns stored in Hopler’s safe." Sounds to me like they have had these guns since 2008.....we are now in what year? NJ has been dragging their feet and I am sure they will continue to do so. I don't remember seeing in the 2nd Amendment saying "The Right to Bear Arms ....unless you are blind" Whats next....people with only one hand will be banned because they cannot possibly hold their gun effectively. Maybe people with heart conditions..........you never know when they might have a heart attack, they might be holding their gun when they do and end up shooting 15-20 people I mean aren't all guns high capacity and fully automatic????? LOL They are also saying because he is an alcoholic ‘you’re a habitual drunkard and we think it’s improper because you’re a habitual drunkard.’"...........suffers from alcoholism. Lets look into that for a second. So that is defined several ways depending where you look......you can be an alcoholic if you have a couple of beers at night when you get home to relax (its about the compulsion to need to drink the alcohol), so people don't think you are a alcoholic unless you are drinking a case a night (the compulsion to drink that much)......the key word is compulsion. I don't know how much this guy drinks and I really don't care. The main thing is feeling they need to take away his right because he feels the need (or compulsion) to have a drink now and then. The second doesn't say anything about alcoholics or people with compulsions. So, whats next.......what types of compulsions are next? People that have a need to drive a little faster, pick their nose too much, drink soda too much, etc. Its the guy's hobby, give him a break. So, what.....now if the government doesn't approve of the hobbies you like to do....they can come in and make you stop. I know its a far reach but it's that really what this is about........people (the government) reaching to far into other people's rights? __________________ --------------------------------------------------- The only thing better than good family is good friends. J and D Lloyd Get ready...it's getting "real" and really fast! Last edited by jlloyd73; 05-13-2012 at 09:48 AM..