Originally Posted by berto64
I've similar bumper adornments on my old pickup down AZ. For me it was an invitation to leave me the hell alone and I did not care to hear any liberals feelings about the VNM Conflict. If you haven't been in combat you have no idea what it does to someone and everyone handles it different.
I did 3 tours in-country and don't regret it, I volunteered to go so some married guy might not have to go. But when I got home my reception was somewhat less than cordial. eSPECIALLY IN sAN fRANCISCO. My folks picked me up at the El Paso airport and we drove back to Calsbad. El Paso was not bad because it is a big military town. Home of Ft Bliss and an airfield, I forget the name.
All the guys I went to school that had not ended up in the military would constantly ask what my body count was and crap like that. I finally quit telling people I had been in Vietnam and just told them I had been working out of town.
So ya see Whymememe, there are reasons far beyond your comprehension for that person to have that bumper sticker and it is also his right as free speech.
People don't have agree with it but you wouldn't want take away his rights just because you don't agree with what he is saying would you?
berto64, you might have been the one that took my place. I didn't go and I know I would probably be on the wall now, if I had went. From the training and other combat vets that I served with, I have an idea what it was like. The body count was the way they measured the success of the war. Thats the way the media portrayed it and it was real.
Of course, I do not know how it effected you personally. I experienced being away from states for 17 months. When I got back home I got the same treatment you did. To the civilians, anybody in uniform was a Viet Nam Vet, even when I told them I didn't go to Viet Nam they acted like I was lying. I was once called a baby killer because some guy saw my disabled vet car tag. I have a regular car tag today because of the stigma. I always respected the guys with the CIB's and I had enough respect for them not to ask them alot of questions about it. I did have one of them call me a non-combatant MF and it hurt. I quess it was an ego thing. Or resentment because I didn't go. Then being a draftee and grunt. I was at the bottom of the pecking order. I know I sound like a cry baby, there was absolutly nothing I could do but follow orders. I would have done anything they ordered me to do.
You don't have to answer, but what was your MOS. I didn't think this much until I retired. But there was always anger and rage that would surface sometime. It might sound crazy, but it's like all of you guys were my brothers and I was angry that so many were lost. I didn't realize the magnitude untill a few years ago.
Anyway thanks for serving and thanks for taking the time to help me sort the out.
No, I would not want take away any thing from him. He's already lost too much and he's earned the right to do what he wants. It seems like he's isolating himself and I'm beginning to feel like I want to be isolated too.