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There's a safety margin built in there, but when you go to +p it stretches that boundary too much, not leaving an acceptable amount.

What it boils down to, is the materials and/or design aint good enough. They cheap out and dont build stuff right. If it aint able to shoot +P, it aint for me. I want a quality weapon.

On a side note, there is a differance in the effectiveness of +P versus standard loads, in my experience. Granted, the bullet weights were differant, but I'll give you the info and you may use it if you like. I have shot roughly a hundred or so hogs with my 45 using 230g hydrashoks and 185g +P hydrashoks. The 230's dropped them much faster. I know shot placement is key, but from what I have seen, the 230's did better irregardless as long as it was a decent shot. The 185's may have killed them, but they atleast seemed to go farther. I did not recover any of the bullets, but that would have been interesting to see how they looked and seen exactly what the penetration was. So, for my money, I will stick to the big slow boolit, even if I have to search around for them.