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My dad joked about the Model 12, he used to have one in the trunk of the gov car; He used to say you could jack up the car with it or use it as a hammer or whatever, the thing was solid.

Had two short shucks with the 870 yesterday at the skeet range and still had plenty of time to get it back into action and break the targets. I will never use an auto myself as I usually shoot light 7/8oz loads, won't cycle reliably; pump action is king !