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Originally Posted by Caneman

Too bad we can't have a free discussion on this issue, even if some get hurt feelings, as it would be better to have someone be saved for eternity at the expense of being hurt in the short term...

But I think if you read scripture carefully, and look at Christian church history, there are a few issues that always seem to come up and distinguish Christianity from all other beliefs:

1) Jesus Christ is uncreated and eternal God. He has always existed in eternity past, present, and eternity future. Nobody or nothing made Jesus Christ, He is uncreated, and was not made from any substance. Not sure how anyone could justify that they are a Christian if they do not worship Jesus Christ as God who is both uncreated and eternal.

2) God, who is Jesus Christ, died on the cross as a sacrifice for all of our sins, it is a free gift of grace to receive this forgiveness, so that we are now acceptable to God and given His righteousness (also a gift). Not sure how anyone can justify that they are a Christian if they believe that Jesus' death on the cross can't forgive some sins, and/or that you have to do certains acts to earn righteousness in God's sight.

There are other issues to consider regarding Chrisitianity, but from my experience the two above always the central core issues.

I thought perhaps that the thread constrainsts had changed in this forum, and we would be able to discuss issues objectively, and with facts, but I am afraid that this still not the case so I am done here.

I would think you would be thrilled that you can come here and express your faith openly the way you do. I would challenge you to go to ANY other forum and attempt to have these discussions and see just how long they will last before the plug gets pulled. There MUST be moderation on every issue whether we like it or not. There are some things that I could say about some religions that wouldnt go over very good anywhere, but I dont do it. But, this place is probably a minority when it comes to allowing religious discussion and actually having that discussion without it going south continuously. There is hardly another subject that can get as heated and Terry does well to maintain this forum. So, enjoy what it is. Like I said, I challenge you to find one better. All you will find is people screaming and bashing and heated discussion, not praying for each other and respect. But, if thats not good enough for you, I understand. We all want for people to know the truth. All you can do is post the truth and pray that it is received.