Originally Posted by CJ_56
I somehow missed this post when I posted above. Sorry but I disagree that a Glock can compete with 1911's and with most Sigs in fact. I don't think most people believe they are as accurate as some other guns because they are built to be functional in all conditions. That means tolerances that aren't as tight as they could be and that means less accuracy. Show me a Glock that will shoot 1" groups at 50 yards and I'll believe you. If you're asking if Sigs will do this some were designed to do just that.
From the Truth About Guns web page
The P210 is renowned for its accuracy. The design specs calls for every P210 to be capable of putting five rounds into a 2 inch circle at 50 yards before leaving the factory. As with some of SIGs higher end pistols, a test fire target is included in the box.
AFAIK no such claims were ever made about Glocks. And yes Sigs can shoot this well. The new Sig P210 Legend is supposed to do a 1" group at 50 yards before leaving the factory. My P220 will do 2"-3" at 50 yards from a rest if I practice up a good bit before I try it. I've shot 2" groups with it from that distance. It won't do it every time but then I'm not the best shooter in the world either.
Don't get me wrong. I like Glocks. I started to buy one once. I had it in my head that I was going to buy one and I had the money in my pocket. But I couldn't find one that fit my hand well so I ended up with something else. I also came very close to buying a 1911 once. I tried to hand the money to the guy who had it and I was paying more than it was worth but he wouldn't sell.
Now I really hope we don't have to hash out every single point. I think you'll find it's common for people to believe Glocks are not as accurate as Sigs.
Here's a quote from the article you posted the link to:
One of them asked me, “How about a P210?” I couldn’t believe that they had one. The P210 is an almost mythical gun – you hear about it, but you rarely see it. It’s manufactured in very small quantities and you have to look long and hard to find someone who has it in stock. A few months ago while contemplating the purchase of a highly accurate gun for IDPA that could make up for some of my shortcomings . . .
I had considered the P210, but when I asked about its availability, the pro shop guys kind of laughed and said good luck finding one.
So, the gun you want to prop up against the glock isn't actually a true production model at all. Seems a bit disingenuous. You also stated that the Glock should fire a 1 inch group, while the Sig was 5 rounds in a 2 inch group. Um, is it two or one?
I believe the glock is capable of it for the 2 inch, if we're going to be fair against the Sig. But, I don't think the Sig 210 is a fair
candidate. It's a small run production model, and rare.
So, perhaps a fair comparison would be a long slide 9mm Glock against an equal length Sig 9mm, eh? Or, a .45 against the 220?
Seeing how the P210 also has a hefty $2200 price tag, not in the same class as a Glock either. For that price, it better put 5 rounds in a 2 inch group, OR BETTER. Sheeesh.
Truly an apples and oranges comparison.
Perhaps a test at 50 feet would be sufficient. It would be for me anyway.
How do you like the P220? I've always wanted a Sig, but the $1,000 price tag always chases me away.