Re: .17 hmr Savage I saw yesterday...
20oz plastic soda/water bottles make perfect sized practice targets for p-dogs BTW!
the marlin I have in .17 will literally cut the same whole at 50yds, no joke! Remington ammo is ironically the most accurate; I say ironically because Remington has the absolute worst .22 rimfire stuff out there IMO. But their .17 HMR ballistic tip is unbelievably accurate and consistent from lot to lot, I think a box of 50 is around $17 now.
"Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."