Oh no! Not at my range! - The Firearms Forum

Sig Willy · 11-08-2012, 06:40 PM

http://www.ksat.com/news/Man-dies-at...z/-/index.html

SAN ANTONIO -

San Antonio police are investigating a shooting that left a 37-year-old man dead at a local gun range.

The shooting happened around 11:30 a.m. Wednesday at A Place to Shoot located in the 13000 block of Pleasanton Road.

San Antonio pPolice Sgt. George Antu said the victim died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head, but it was unclear if the man shot himself on purpose or if it was an accident.

lead · 11-08-2012, 06:51 PM

That is very tragic. Prayers for all those he left behind.

stumpjumper · 11-08-2012, 07:47 PM

seems we get a couple of them a year here in fl. if you think about it, life insurance won't cover suicide, but your heirs will make a bundle on suing the range for lax oversight

Sig Willy · 11-08-2012, 08:24 PM

It's tragic alright. The range just got out of a lawsuit.

Sig Willy · 11-09-2012, 08:49 AM

UPDATE:

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/loc...-d-4020895.php

Police have identified a man who committed suicide at a popular South Side shooting range.

vonotterskull · 11-09-2012, 10:10 AM

Sad someone has to commit suicide at a gun range with a rented handgun. I've never been to A Place to Shoot, heard too many not so good things there. I'm a fan of Cedar Ridge. Good people, good rules, good times.

Sig Willy · 11-09-2012, 11:03 AM

A lot has changed since I was there in the 80s. It was open country at first with tables and wooden target stands. Today since I went back shooting two years ago it's fenced, stalls and concrete. It's heavily moderated with plenty of ROs on duty. It's a good range but strict.

No one saw this coming and I don't think anybody at any ranges will.

gvw3 · 11-09-2012, 02:37 PM

It happened so many times at one of my ranges they won't rent guns if you go in by yourself. There is no way a range can put a stop this. Its sad but it happens.

Slabsides · 11-09-2012, 02:46 PM

That happens alot more than you think. Google it. It happened at the range I instruct at a little more than a month ago. A man in his late 30's rented one of our guns and shot himself in the head. It was captured on video and it was no doubt intentional. The man, up to that point, appeared normal and calm, he shot several rounds at a paper target, took a break and did the deed. Sadly, it goes with the business. It's no different than someone driving to a bridge and jumping off of it....just a different method.

Sig Willy · 11-09-2012, 03:28 PM

There's one sad aspect to it, all suicide guns has a body on it. Who'd want those guns?

What does the ranges do with 'em? Let the cops take 'em away to destroy?

Slabsides · 11-09-2012, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sig Willy

There's one sad aspect to it, all suicide guns has a body on it. Who'd want those guns?

What does the ranges do with 'em? Let the cops take 'em away to destroy?

The police held ours until the investigation was complete and returned it. I completetly disassembled, cleaned and inspected it (I'm a Glock Armorer) and it has been retired from service and removed from the range.

millwright · 11-09-2012, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slabsides

The police held ours until the investigation was complete and returned it. I completetly disassembled, cleaned and inspected it (I'm a Glock Armorer) and it has been retired from service and removed from the range.

Why ? >MW

Slabsides · 11-10-2012, 07:25 AM

Decision of the owner. I think because some people would be freaked out by it. I can understand that and respect his decision.

UncleFudd · 11-10-2012, 07:33 AM

Suicides are always sad and leave many wondering.
I built and owned the indoor ranage in Mesa Az in 88 and sold in 2009.
In those years I had five of them including the first two, were 22 year old kids, boy and girl from England. Her dad was the minister of defense. They stood side by side and stuck the guns in their mouths and pulled the triggers.
No one saw it coming and no one could have done a thing to prevent.
All others were older, single adults and placed themselves in a manner and position that no one could intervene.
I picked up the pieces of all of them and dealt with families and police.
I was never sued and the people who shot there all the years were always the most supportive and the first on the phone to make sure everyone at the range was safe.
It WILL happen and it CANNOT be stopped no matter what rules or regulations are in place.
Period.
Sad but true.

UF

11-08-2012, 06:40 PM	#1
Sig Willy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 565	Oh no! Not at my range! http://www.ksat.com/news/Man-dies-at...z/-/index.html SAN ANTONIO - San Antonio police are investigating a shooting that left a 37-year-old man dead at a local gun range. The shooting happened around 11:30 a.m. Wednesday at A Place to Shoot located in the 13000 block of Pleasanton Road. San Antonio pPolice Sgt. George Antu said the victim died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head, but it was unclear if the man shot himself on purpose or if it was an accident. __________________ _________________________ Be alert! We need more lerts! -->

11-08-2012, 06:51 PM	#2
lead Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,522	Re: Oh no! Not at my range! That is very tragic. Prayers for all those he left behind. __________________ The best things in life, are not things.

11-08-2012, 07:47 PM	#3
stumpjumper Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: swflorida Contributor Posts: 654	Re: Oh no! Not at my range! seems we get a couple of them a year here in fl. if you think about it, life insurance won't cover suicide, but your heirs will make a bundle on suing the range for lax oversight __________________ after three rounds you're just making noise Guns have only two enemies rust and politicians

11-08-2012, 08:24 PM	#4
Sig Willy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 565	Re: Oh no! Not at my range! It's tragic alright. The range just got out of a lawsuit. __________________ _________________________ Be alert! We need more lerts!

11-09-2012, 08:49 AM	#5
Sig Willy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 565	Re: Oh no! Not at my range! UPDATE: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/loc...-d-4020895.php Police have identified a man who committed suicide at a popular South Side shooting range. __________________ _________________________ Be alert! We need more lerts!

11-09-2012, 10:10 AM	#6
vonotterskull V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 86	Re: Oh no! Not at my range! Sad someone has to commit suicide at a gun range with a rented handgun. I've never been to A Place to Shoot, heard too many not so good things there. I'm a fan of Cedar Ridge. Good people, good rules, good times.

11-09-2012, 11:03 AM	#7
Sig Willy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 565	Re: Oh no! Not at my range! A lot has changed since I was there in the 80s. It was open country at first with tables and wooden target stands. Today since I went back shooting two years ago it's fenced, stalls and concrete. It's heavily moderated with plenty of ROs on duty. It's a good range but strict. No one saw this coming and I don't think anybody at any ranges will. __________________ _________________________ Be alert! We need more lerts!

11-09-2012, 02:37 PM	#8
gvw3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago IL Area Contributor Posts: 3,243	Re: Oh no! Not at my range! It happened so many times at one of my ranges they won't rent guns if you go in by yourself. There is no way a range can put a stop this. Its sad but it happens. __________________ Criminals advocate stronger gun laws to foster a safer work environment. This limits their exposure to risk.

11-09-2012, 02:46 PM	#9
Slabsides Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: L.A. (Lower Alabama) Posts: 921	Re: Oh no! Not at my range! That happens alot more than you think. Google it. It happened at the range I instruct at a little more than a month ago. A man in his late 30's rented one of our guns and shot himself in the head. It was captured on video and it was no doubt intentional. The man, up to that point, appeared normal and calm, he shot several rounds at a paper target, took a break and did the deed. Sadly, it goes with the business. It's no different than someone driving to a bridge and jumping off of it....just a different method. __________________ /l ,[____], l---L -OlllllllO- ()_)-()_)-o-)_)

11-09-2012, 03:28 PM	#10
Sig Willy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 565	Re: Oh no! Not at my range! There's one sad aspect to it, all suicide guns has a body on it. Who'd want those guns? What does the ranges do with 'em? Let the cops take 'em away to destroy? __________________ _________________________ Be alert! We need more lerts!

11-10-2012, 07:25 AM	#13
Slabsides Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: L.A. (Lower Alabama) Posts: 921	Re: Oh no! Not at my range! Decision of the owner. I think because some people would be freaked out by it. I can understand that and respect his decision. __________________ /l ,[____], l---L -OlllllllO- ()_)-()_)-o-)_)

11-10-2012, 07:33 AM	#14
UncleFudd Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phoenix, Az Contributor Posts: 549	Re: Oh no! Not at my range! Suicides are always sad and leave many wondering. I built and owned the indoor ranage in Mesa Az in 88 and sold in 2009. In those years I had five of them including the first two, were 22 year old kids, boy and girl from England. Her dad was the minister of defense. They stood side by side and stuck the guns in their mouths and pulled the triggers. No one saw it coming and no one could have done a thing to prevent. All others were older, single adults and placed themselves in a manner and position that no one could intervene. I picked up the pieces of all of them and dealt with families and police. I was never sued and the people who shot there all the years were always the most supportive and the first on the phone to make sure everyone at the range was safe. It WILL happen and it CANNOT be stopped no matter what rules or regulations are in place. Period. Sad but true. UF